palmered

Hey All,
I have looked on line for the meaning of Palmered Hackle.
Could somebody explain it to me simple terms and how to do it???
I found a couple of places on line,but did not understand it.
thanks mikeb

Simply tie in your hackle(s) by the tip at the rear of your hook and then wind it forward around the hook to the front. One hackle can be wrapped between turns of another to create a more densly hackled effect on larger hooks. You can palmer hackle over a bare hook to create an effective fly or or over a body to supply floatation with a dry fly hackle of movement with a softer hackle. here is a fly of the week that is good example:http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw/2198fotw.php

a wooly bugger has a palmered hackle

an elk hair caddis has a palmered hackle

a stimulator has a palmered hackle

http://www.wmflyfishing.com/Palmering_new.pdf

http://www.google.com/search?q=palmered+hackle&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Thanks guys.
I did not think about google!!
mikeb

It simply means turning a hackle feather around the hook…with or without something on the hook…

it may just be me but I prefer to palmer from front to back and bind the hackle down w/ rib. wire for sunken flies and krystal flash for dries.

Once you figure out what your doing for palmering you will notice a common problem.
The darn things will break . I mean the shaft itself will break. That has happened to me a lot. So being the proactive fellow that I try to be I asked my local GURU ( aka Bluegill222) what was up. He said “cheap hackle” and he was right ! (Thats why I asked him). Get the best hackle that you can afford . I got a #1 Metz neck that was on sale and couldnt be happier. Great hackles with very good density . Now I need to score about four more colors and Im set.
There are different ways to make a hackle more pliable but you might still end up with skimpiness.
Best wishes.

Another problem that you may have is that the palmered hackle on a wooly worm can cause the fly to twirl while it’s being retrieved.

The best way to get past this is to stop the retrieve and get a large, bull bluegill so steaming mad at the unwinding fly that he smashes it REALLY hard.

At least that’s what has always worked for me. Eventually the gills will tear the palmered hackle completely off the fly and the problem will not repeat itself. :wink:

Enjoy. :smiley:

Tim

Here is one of the very best explanations I’ve found. Basically the first 2-3 minutes.
Wind your hackle both directions.

Thanks Sonny,
I have seen that guys videos and learned alot,but I have not seen that one…
thanks again,mikeb

You’re welcome Mike, hope it helps.
(Frankly, I don’t get why they call it “Palmering”. Did Arnold Palmer come up with it?) :smiley:

:confused:

heres one possible explanation

Palmered:
Application of a hackle to hook body by attaching at the bend and spiraling toward the head, around the body, is called palmered hackle. The process of winding thusly is to “palmer” the hackle.

Palmer Fly:
Type of fly which has hackle wound over body from tail to head. The name derived from the Palmer Worm or Caterpiller of old England. Usually these flies are wingless.

Palmered Fly:
Wet or dry fly with a thick body and a few or no tail fibers, but identified best by the thick hackle collar. No wings.