For those of you who are curious, go to the Ebay auction site and do a search for Item number: 7244997559
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For $160 I could get 8 #3 capes (4 brown and 4 grizzly) and tie up a whole lot more flies. I must be sitting on a gold mine - I got a Metz #2 Cree off of E-Bay a few years ago for $25 and have barely touched it; guess I should store it in a safe deposit box (with moth crystasl, of course). I hope whoever ends up with that cape enjoys it.
Regards,
ScottP
Does it say who raised the chicken?
it’s listed as a Whiting/Keough Dry Fly Neck Grade 1
Born to fish, forced to work.
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This question may show my lack of knowledge in this area, but I thought that Whiting and Keough were two separate operations. If they are indeed separate operations, is such a cape possible?
I would also be very uncomfortable paying that kind of money for something on eBay that I haven’t seen. 8T 
You had better learn to be a happy camper. You only get one try at this campground and it’s a real short camping season.
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The thing I like about this auction is “THERE ARE NO RETURNS ON THIS PRODUCT” That in itself tells me stay away , run , don’t look back
Can this be ‘cross-breeding’? Did a chicken get out one dark night and… 
The no return policy on an item like this is normal. I can imagine that someone could receive it-pluck a dozen good feathers from the neck and then return it sauying it wasn’t what they wanted. Then argue with seller about missing feathers. The feed back is 100% posative. No worries me thinks 
That said-I would not pay that price for the cree neck. I found plenty of cree necks for around $50.00 each and even some tyer’s grade cree necks for $20.00.
I picked up an Indian ‘Cree’ neck for about $10-15 a couple of years ago. No doubt it is not strictly speaking a ‘proper’ cree but I don’t think I would pay $164.00 for any neck.
At the time I did a little research on flies that required a cree hackle and didn’t find all that many. I suppose it will be framed and hung on the wall of somebody’s den as a trophy.
He’d (somehow I don’t think it will be a she.) be well advised to spend his money on a few good books on fly fishing/tying.
Or maybe even better giving the money to help junior fly fishers.
Donald/Scotland
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I bought a Conranch #1 Cree for $200. If you want a top grade Cree Cape, that is the going cost.
You have to understand what is involved to breed a cree, it is a mutant coloration that is created by, selective breeding of a recessive DNA pattern in a family of chickens. Usually only one out of two hundred fifty thousand capes are a Cree.
Denny Conrad has a Cree article on FAOL, and he does seem to have broken the Cree Code. His first year of breeding for Cree, he ended up with 16 Cree Capes. I also bought a Barred Ginger Cape that was the brother of the Cree. Same Rooster and Hen, different results.
Denny’s Cree’s are true Cree, not close Cree, or variations.
~Parnelli
JC,
Could PETA have been involved with the intentional mixing of the two chicken breeds? 8T
You know, I’m really not impressed with the difficulty in breeding cree necks. ( don’t take me wrong, there is no flame intended!)
I don’t care what the color is, the variation, anything like that. They are chicken feathers. Period. Chicken. Feathers.
Of course, flyboxes sell on eBay for 50 bucks, so the $160 feathers can have a good home!
The usefulness or maybe the uselessness of cree can be debated but that’s beside the point. Cree is a rarity so it will fetch a higher price no matter what, it’s all about supply and demand.
Personally though, I would be more concerned about the quality of the cape than the color. $200 for an entire cree skin isn’t bad, but it better rate Gold grade or #1 or better for that price.
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If that Cree is a Keough and Whiting mix that must have been 1 “Traveling” Bird.
Bill Keough is just down the road from me(I’m in Kalamazoo an he’s in Mendon), not sure where Whiting at. Sounds like a possible “Rip-Off” to me.
Bill
I just took a peek and the final price was $177.50, oh yeah the packaging clearly had Keough on it, not sure where the seller ever got Whiting involved with that cape.
Jamie
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Can this be ‘cross-breeding’? Did a chicken get out one dark night and…
I don’t care who you are, that there’s funny…lol
I guess we know now why the chicken crossed the road…
Spelling and Grammar not subject to judgement…
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I once asked Whiting what made a neck they had a ‘Cree’. “Because Dr. Tom says it is,” was the answer. And I guess that is what it’s all about. I have seen other cree’s that did not look like that, but were ‘called’ cree by the seller. I have seen the cree that Conranch calls cree and it had more colors than any others that I had ever seen. Does that make his cree. Sure, if he says so. Are all necks that a seller calls cree, cree? I guess so. I know I prefer the cree with the most colors and the best quality. Unfortunately, some average variant feathers are passed off as cree, when I think that is a bit of a stretch.