Is anybody out there tying Oliver’s flies… or woven flies in general?
Not yet Jim, I just got two Edwards dvd’s and I am very impressed with his “quick ties.” I will definitely tie a few of those, they look great.
I would like to have a go at weaving, but I am not sure if his patterns on the dvd are terribly relevant to my fishing, although the techniques are very well outlined and look great. I would like to learn more, maybe see some more examples.
I’ve tried a few but since I didn’t have the right color floss at hand, I haven’t been able to really fish them with success. I just got some good colors today and I’ll “whip up” a few more and see how it goes. Actually, my first trys were even in the ball park as far as comparing to the DVD. Takes some practice but then I think it goes quite quickly.
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I was surprised at how straight forward it looks. I hesitate to say “easy!” He has a remarkably steady hand and control of the thread. Just the same I thought it would be terribly complicated, the finished product certainly looks as if it was.
Yes, but thanks JC. A little different to Edwards application but interesting just the same.
You mean like these?
I have tied a few what would you like to know?
[This message has been edited by AlanB (edited 11 June 2005).]
AlanB,
Cool Flies!
Rich
Exceptional Flies Alan,
One of my favorite stone fly patterens has a woven body…and I confess to having great difficulty in getting the hang of the weaving part of tying…everything else is a snap compared to getting tight uniform woven bodies as the ones Alan has so beautifully tied…Nice photo work as well…Ty for rubb’in it in…lol
“I’ve often wondered why it is that so many anglers spend so much money on,and pay so much attention to.the details on the wrong end of the fly line.If they took as much care in selecting or tying their flies as they did in the selection of the reel and rod,They might be able to gain the real extra edge that makes it possible to fool a fish that has,in fact,seen it all before” A.K.Best
“Wish ya great fishing”
Bill
I tie and fish a lot of Oliver’s creations. I used to do a lot of woven flies but I have not done any recently! I haven’t tied any of Oliver’s flies from his two new DVDs but I do do a lot of his patterns from his Other 3 DVDs and his book.
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The secret is lots and lots of practice. Sorry no easy fix. Unlike Oliver in his DvD’s I change hands with the two threads. One other thing is that you don’t have to hold the threads tight just under even tension.
One thing that helps is to tie at least 6 flies up to the point just before the weave then put them aside. Once you have them ready weave them all one after another. This way you get practice doing the weave without pausing to tie the next fly upto the weave point. It really does help.
Regards,
Alan.
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming “WOO HOO what a ride!”
They look excellent Alan. Do you mainly do nymphs? I was just after some hints of mastering the technique. Edwards makes it look so easy! I also wondered what patterns it can be adapted to, like in mayflies etc?
Mike which ones do you mainly do? I confess I did not know that Edwards had a book, I only have the latest set of two dvd’s and that has excited my interest.
While his stonefly looks great it is not a fly I would fish here very often. I gues I tend to fish lakes in winter and use mostly of streamers like Bushy’s Horrors and W. Buggers, and midge patterns. Summer I fish mountain freestone streams (skinny water!) and probably duns, and your R. Wulff, and Humpies. I’m wondering how I could incorporate weaving into that range…
Thanks for your help guys, very much appreciated.
AlanB,
Which weaving technique are you using for the flies in the photo? I normally tye hook weaved nymphs (and typically much smaller than stonefly nymphs), but your flies do not look like any method I am familiar with.
Thanks in advance,
TNC
Life is but a stream…
The technique I use is the shuttle weave. The same one as Oliver uses though I do exactly what he tells you not to. I change hands. Judge the results for yourself.
You can use this for any flys you like. If you can use a floss body then you can weave it. I do use it mostly for nymphs though.
Here are two pictures of the same nymph. One wet and one dry. I use the weave to create a variation in the translucency of the abdomin.
Alan
I love to tie woven body flies. I have some really good Stone fly and Salmon fly patterns. I was fishing the Blackfoot this past weekend and lost 6 of them in the first mile. I can tie them pretty fast but it sure sucks to lose them. We would have rowed up to get them but the water was still to fast. I’d be willing to tie up a few if some people would like to trade some Stone fly patterns. Scott
Can you post a pic Scott?
I’m not that good on the computer. If someone can post pictures I would send them one in the mail. Just let me know. Scott
I do most of his patterns…Look for his book Flytyer’s Masterclass, and his three other DVDs in the Essential Skills series.
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Yeah I did that Mike, I tried adall.com and amazon. Trouble is the book goes for $US80 in Oz, and the cheaper ones on amazon in USA won’t ship international. Also I don’t know how to source any dvd’s other than his latest which I have.
[url=http://www.essential-skills.tv:b3f63]http://www.essential-skills.tv[/url:b3f63] You can order them here…I think if you buy all three you save some money. They also have his other 2 DVDs here. This is the direct source of his DVDs.
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