To keep this flyfishing related. Pulaski, the Salmon River is just 25 miles from me. I live on the edge of the main snowbelt. 30 plus inches on the ground, then 1 ft plus yesterday, now another 16. The snowmelt will make for some terrific water in the spring. Yes cabin fever has set in. dan
Is that near Buffalo?
cheers,
MontanaMoose
WE also got 16". It was our first snow of the year and a long time coming. Best of all it will be cold enough so I can go and play in it this weekend. Sunday will be ice fishing and cross country skiing. Yipee!
jed
Jed
It takes quite a cast to get that fly in a 6" hole :roll:
Brad
So Danny let me ask you: How did New York State handle the snow removal and other issues on the Interstates?
Here in PA they have have most of I-81 & I-80 and a bit of I-78 still totally blocked, full of stranded motorists; some there since WEDNESDAY. My brother in-law was stuck on I-81 for 13 hours with no communication or assistance from authorities.
I have never seen anything like it and I’ve seen some snowstorms. Please tell me this level of incompetence and unpreparedness is only here in PA.
up here were i live in vt we got 39 inches its a huge mess
Dear bamboozle,
Not to start an argument but NY and PA had two different storms. NY had no ice, we had 7 to 8 inches of heavy ice encrusted snow here in Harrisburg and I talked to a buddy in Hazleton and they had 16 inches of the same stuff. There is no de-icing technique that works effectively below 10 degrees, once it’s that cold everything freezes solid.
In addition, people from NY State don’t expect bare pavement during a snow storm. They know how to drive in snow much better than most people in PA.
Secondly, the biggest problem on the road this time were trucks. They got stuck between exits and effectively closed the roads all by themselves. A jack-knifed rig on a limited access two lane highway is like building a dam on a river, everything stops. When you add in snow and ice and park vehicles on top of it they can’t get going again.
PA needs to ban tandem trailers and institute a chain law for trucks during snow storms on Interstate highways. A truck stuck in between two exits 16 miles apart on a divided highway doesn’t cause a noticeable problem until traffic backs up to the exit below the stranded truck. By that time it’s way to late to do anything about it.
This was just a freak storm, but people need to realize there are times when continued travel is not wise and learn to recognize those times and act accordingly.
I’m not a big fan of Penn-DOT, but these problems are more the result of God’s Will than anything Penn-DOT did or did not do.
Best Wishes,
Avalon
I think Kussee hasa new home up there.
Avalon:
Well one thing they and local law enforcement were capable of doing was blocking access to those same limited access roads THEY knew were blocked. It’s pretty bad when even the local Channel 69 news reporters got stuck on I-78.
A couple of fusee’s or strategically placed barriers or cop cars would have went a long way to spare more than a few folks the aggravation. As idealistic as it sounds, not everybody has the option of leaving work early, staying home or avoiding driving.
Culpability in this regard rests firmly with those in charge.
But anyway, getting back to fishing; I’m going to go fishing in an hour so hopefully the roads aren’t still blocked. 
Also being a Harrisburg resident, I do have to agree with Avalon on this, specifically in the city. People around here simply don’t know how to drive in snow. I grew up in Erie, PA, so I know a thing or two about driving in it, digging out of it, etc. All up and down my block yesterday, I watched people digging out JUST ENOUGH to get their own cars out. I watched one guy hang himself up on a snow pile and, instead of considering digging, he just burned tire until he got some purchase. It’s insane. I don’t know how many people I helped dig, push and pull cars out… but once they’re out, they don’t want to clean up the spot. I know it’s “the city’s job” but if each person would just clear the snow around and under their vehicles it would only be half as bad as it is.
Folks in Harrisburg are “lucky” it’s the city’s job. I remember a certain Philadelphia Mayor, now a Pennsylvania Governor telling Philly folks in the “Blizzard of 1996” that it was too bad but the City wasn’t going to plow their streets. People with shovels had to shovel 30" of snow out of whole city blocks. The two way street my business was on was a one way street for a MONTH with no access!
BTW, the next Phila Mayor at least figured the snow removal out for the side streets.
Lol… Bamboozle… considering the situation in this city, “lucky” is exactly the way to phrase it. I’m not suggesting at all that we the people should be responsible for wholesale snow removal. I’m just saying that just that little bit of clearing the area(s) around your cars makes it easier on the city and thusly, easier on everyone else.
We won’t even get into a discussion on our Gov… :shock:
I live in central ny, 10 miles south of Oswego. With these big snows life seems to just go on. I guess we expect bad roads during storms. Plus to, the traffic isn’t quite as heavy. I believe the road crews here do an exceptional job. dan
Here in Central Texas we had some cold weather around the upper 30’s brrrr. Just had to throw in the dig, sorry everyone for your plight of discomfort. I’m just a bugger…
Hobo
So Calif. gets snow too.
May I ask, do you guys in PA and NY and other eastern states have snow emergency levels where you can’t be out on the road? I never heard of such a thing til I moved to Ohio. Growing up in the Wasatch front in Utah, I guess we just expected it and dealt with it. I was basically forced to stay home from work on Wednesday b/c my county was at a “Level 3” emergency. I had nothing to do but shake my head and wonder. :roll:
Wild One,
I use to live in Ohio before moving to Tennessee 25 years ago and when I lived there, they did not have the emergency level thing you mentioned. Now that I think about it, I can see some very positive points with having it. Most of the times emergency crews have problems removing snow, opening roads and getting medical supplies and needs to people that need it because of too many cars and trucks in their way! There are still people in this world that think their vehicle can go where others cannot and those are the ones that end up stuck and blocking roads for road clearing crews. Fewer people and vehicles on the road means quicker opening of roads and less chances of someone being stranded and needing medical treatment. With the conditions that I see some States are having, I think the only people that should be out in it are emergency personnel and road clearing personnel and neither one of those crews should have to be hindered with those who just want to go out and play and create more work for others.
Just my opinions and nothing more.
Here in Northfield VT above the capital we got 31"
Hi Dan
You could send some of that snow this way. Our snow pack is at about 67% of normal.
Will all that melting make the spring fishing out of the question?
More snow gives less run off?