Noob looking for suggestions

So I have read most of the beginners stuff on this website. Its really good and I will reread it again soon probably. Anyways, I just got some stuff to get started fly fishing.

I didn’t want to get stuff I would have to replace, so I got what I thought would be mid-level stuff. I tested a couple rods and ended up with the Scott A2 in 5 weight. For the reel I got a Lamson Litespeed. It was on clearance since they just came out with a new one. Even though I already bought them, I would like to know what you think of them.

I need some waders still. I don’t know where to start. Are there any that are known to last? Cabela’s webstie shows a lot, but I noticed there is a lot of “Cabela’s” brand and not many others.

Also, what should I look for in a vest? I am 6’3" and about 260. I tried on a couple with some mesh and they felt okay, but just seem short. But I figure that is normal to keep them out of the water as much as possible.

You’re right, Cabala’s tends to carry a lot of ‘Cabala’s’ stuff. Go figure… Oh, ya, lots of vests are short; helps keep whateverisinthepockets!!! dry! :twisted:

hey OUtlaws, that rod and reel should last you forever. Good choices.
p0ke around in the sponsors section. Maybe some vest information there. Good fishing to you.

Sounds like you made a real good choice with the rod & reel. Good stuff! Just don’t scrimp on the line.
Welcome & stick with FAOL…lots of great folks & sound advice. These folks have sure helped me…AND continue to do so.
Mike

I’m sure my fishing attitude would frighten most folks.

My Scott waders have lasted me over 20 years. A little heavy but I could float better than the Titanic. I won’t mention the others… I generally won’t wear any of them. Kinda tough walking the middle of the river though.

Vests? A couple of <real> safety pins and patches of lambs wool for the bugs; a cloth pouch that used to hold my favorite Scotch is used to hold my leaders.

A hat for sun protection works as a lanyard to display my license.

Now, I do own a couple of vests, but the above techniques make them last sooo much longer than most folks.

It’s in the heart and tenacity, not the hardware. Better hardware can make for a more comfortable day, there’s no doubt about it, but fish from the heart. With proper timing, one could lay a line with a long stick. Now: boots. Get the most comfortable, insulated boots you can find. If your feet get cold and nasty so does the attitude.

30% jest, 70% honesty, 15% BS. I’ve found I’m correct 95% of the time… who cares about the other 7%.

By the way, come to this site very, very often. This is a phenominal crowd loaded with an insane amount of knowledge and skill. ;] Don’t be shy, read it all.

I would highly recommend breathable waders, with a stocking foot and wading boots with felt soles. I also use cleats, which have its advantages, but also make a lot of noise. The first breathables I bought I went low price ($150), and they didn?t hold up at all. Started leaking around the foot after 6 months, but they also got a lot of use. I am currently on my second pair of SIMMS Gortex, and I have no reason to try anything else. My first pair of SIMMS still work great after 5 years; I just hadn?t had anything new and shiny in a long time. If you?re in extremely cold water pick up a pair of fleece pants and socks to go under your waders as well, (along with 3 pairs of insulated long johns, and 2 pairs of jeans, 6 sweatshirts and 3 wool hats??. Ah just kidding.) You?ll love the Gortex breathable, but my experience is not to go low price on this equipment. Good Luck…

RST

I’d like to suggest that you find an instructor and get the basics of casting correctly from the start. It will save you lots of frustration .

From one Noob to another Gnub :lol:

I’ve long out-lived my basic equipment, but learned on an old, crummy bamboo. I still own and occaisionally use my Fenwicks rods. Simms Gortex? Can’t de-bait that one, for sure.

I own a number of vintage “boo’s”, Winston, Sage, Reddington and have built my own Kennedy’s but love the Red’ton for its’ touchie-feelie and can lob it a mile. The line? Spend the money. The cleated-feet tend to make me fall down alot - or perhaps it’s the Scotch - but love the felt.

I haven’t heard the term “wading stick” used yet. It will save the destruction of the High-End rods (reference the “Scotch” line, above. Remember the sun at your back, 30 degrees of vision for the fish, keep a low profile and present well above the target to get the bug to a level/location in the water B4 it gets to the designated target. You don’t have to keep the line on your reel, just don’t keep it wraped around the feet or debris.

Never had a great deal of money, raising a bunch of ungrateful children and visiting as many waters as I could (& drinking high-end Scotch), but I have always been using the basics. I’m not much to look at while in the water, but after tying and throwing for the last 3 decades, I would suggest you get the best Polaroids you can find, Simms/Scott waders, a good sun hat to keep the UV off, find a lamb that won’t mind losing some wool and spend the $ on shoes, for certain.

Oh, and only drink 15 year or older Scotch. It’s good for “gravitational impact”.

“Classes??? I don’t need no stinking classes”. Ok, so they couldn’t hurt one very large bit, but watch others and many video’s, listen seriously to the 10/2 o’clock theory and f e e l your rod and line. Don’t “break” the wrist except on presentation… & on the presentation “point” your rod at your target just as the line lays completely before you. Feel the line gently tug on the fore/back-casts. Did I say f e e l your line and rod??? Figgure out what causes too tight/loose of a loop. Did I say “don’t bend your wrist” and as JCastwell states, hold the rod properly.

Practice w/an old or cheap line at the park down the street. Work on targeting, absolutely. “Pluck” the bits of litter. Flat/side cast behind the brush; back-cast between the tree’s, as this is where you should work out the kinks and, this is real whirld fly fishing. You don’t have to practice on just targeting fish ya know… target the trees above you, the telephone pole linemans’ steps, the rain gutters. Learn your equipment like you would your rifle - intimately.

Like Carnege Hall, It’s better to practice, practice, practice. Then, watch, watch, watch the results. Learn to do it all wrong in the park so you know what “wrong” really is.

I’ve never been able to handle a Strike Indicator, they don’t “cut” the wind and destroy my presentation; it’s the f e e l of the almost non-existant touch of the wind or the fish’s strike. Eyeball the fore-cast, the back-cast and the guy in the river. Watch what he does just before he begins swearing.

Learn how NOT to drop the back-cast and hook your back, shoulder and neck. 10/2, 10/2, 10/2

Tie one one for the United States Marines - and Benny Hill.

  1. I’ve fished waters that were so cold the line would freeze in the guides, to the rod and in the reel. Love your woolies, love your woolies.

Thanks everyone. I am really looking forward to going out my first time. Just trying to get the gear at the moment. Every person I have meet while at Cabelas and Sportsmans has been overly helpful even when I told them I wasn’t going to buy anything right then and there. I guess its part of fly fishing lol. Sportsmans had a deal set up to let people learn to cast in the parking lot one day while I was there. A guy from one of the rod companies was out there and spent an hour with me just working on my technique. At Cabela’s the guy did the same for about a half hour or more while I was demoing different rods. I went back and forth between a TFO TiCP and the Scott A2 a couple times. He mentioned I looked better on the Scott than the TFO. And since they both felt so different, but but both felt good, I figured I found what I needed.

I guess I am just not used to the customer service fly fishing seems to offer. When I buy firearms, or even normal bait-fishing tackle, its hit or miss.

Sports<persons> are from the U.S., fly fisher<persons> are from another planet altogether.

Read everything on this site mucho, mucho times, you’ll learn something new with every read I’ve looked at several sites and FAOL is not of this planet. They’ll even put up with my balony (for the purists: “balogna”).

Someone at Cabela’s once said to me “… men don’t use handcreme”. Do the references to Crack Creme and Udder Butter ever rear their ugly heads?

Listen to these folks. Every one of them is just a little bit cracked, but all are honest and dedicated to this lifestyle. There must be 100,000 years of cumulative experience here.

Don’t quit - ever - no matter what kind of day you’ve had. Just comeback and read summore. One day it’ll all “click” and you’ll just be floored with what you can do. Now, if I can just get that durn bug out’a that tree. Again. Again. Again. Deja Vu. Again. Whoops, time to fall into the river… again. After too many years of practice, nobody can fall into the river as good as me.

akidatheart can. snicker snicker…Right Z? :lol:

Welcome to the neighborhood Outlaws. I am a big man myself and I have two of the Cabela’s mesh vests and I am very happy with them.

Rocky

Try LL Bean for waders. Good price and a guarantee that beats all.

Bkelly

The A2 and Litespeed combo should work great for you. As for the Cabela’s waders, Their Dry-Plus Premium stockingfoot waders have done very well for me for about three years now. The neoprene shoulder harness is more comfortable than plain nylon straps and the only leakage issues I’ve had involved a butt-slide down a concrete dam and can therefore be written off as pilot-error rather than bad materials. Besides, I think the seat has more reinforcement in the new models than mine does :slight_smile: