heres the body only
i used ice dubbing and peacock herl. i should have used more herls to give a fuller wing case.
i may tie this one in its entirety and post it to my blog this weekend. maybe!
if other tyers want to step up and do a step by step, please feel free to do so and post it here.
tie in body as shown above
repeat the leg, wing case, dubbing process to get to here
popperfly, if you want this fly PM me your snail mail address and i’ll send it to you
while i may agree with you at times on your post answers, this time is not one of them
to a newbie fly tyer it just may be “rocket science”!
not all tyers on this forum and any other forums have your experience of simply picking up a fly or looking at a picture and deciphering the secret code of what tying materials goes into tying it. i may be wrong, but talking down to people of lesser experience serves no purpose here.
sorry for the rant
definately isn’t rocket science. that should be one of the first things a newbie should learn.
Norm, I will humbly apologize if perceived as talking down. Looking at a fly and deciphering, at least most of the materials, is rather straight forward for all but a brand new tyer. The tying sequence however can indeed be quite a bit more difficult to figure out, but the way you spelled out the sequence for this particular fly seems spot on.
A vote for Norm…
When I first looked at the picture I also thought “woven”…however after Norm’s first explanation and looking closer at the picture…I believe Norm is correct and that the heavier peacock wing case when wrapped with the rib looks somewhat woven…the rib causes it.
That’s my story and I’m sticking to it:D.
Norm, Bass Bug and everyone else that chimed in.
I really thank you guy?s for all your help with my needed help/questions. I am neither an expert nor a beginner tyer I have been tying for a little while thanks to guys like Warren P and Jack Hise who have taught me some neat tricks. I mainly only tie flies used around here on the Duck and Elk River fishing for the trout or ones I see in my Fly Fishing magazines. When I see something that catches my eye or interest me I like the challenge to learn to tie that fly, just like this one did. I noticed this fly at Little Rivers Outfitters in Townsend, TN. I got talking to some guys from Kentucky that were picking out Berry’s Stonefly from the bulk fly drawer, they were fishing the trophy section in the Smokey Mountains, the guys found this fly to be really hot with the Browns. So I thought about tying a few for the challenge and my fly box for the next trip to the Smokey Mountains. There only was one problem, I couldn?t find any information on the recipe or step-by-step instruction so this is why I asked for everyone help. Normally I can look at something and figure it out (that is the Engineer in me) but this one caught me off guard and I believe a few others on here?.lol. Now that I seen the pictures Norm posted I understand and find it very simple, thanks Norm for the pic?s!! And everyone else for your input. 
Since this fly has become an issue how about everyone trying their luck at tying one and post a picture, I bet there will be several different version. Norm I will try my luck at tying this over the weekend and post a picture. 
Nicely done Normand. You are, indeed, the master of R & D. Your fly looks close enough to satisfy even the most discriminating trout. As a group, we sweat far too many details. 8T 
R&D, is that Rob & Duplicate?
I have been taught by my friend who grew up chasing western trout that fishermen are more finicky about the appearance of the fly than the fish.
Wow, THANKS Normand! I too was thinking woven abdomen, but am happy to see I was probably wrong (I don’t do woven flies well…yet). I couldn’t figure out how else they would get that look on the underside of the fly, but now it totally makes sense the way you showed. THANK YOU!
one thing to add. stone flies have but 2 wing pads. the third that’s perceived as a wing pad is the pronotum and needn’t be folded.
I was originally thinking inside the box with Research and Development but I like “Rob and Duplicate” much better. I’m pretty sure that Rob and Duplicate is what R & D means in China and a few other countries that are notorious for patent violations and knock-off products. BTW, my 8 foot, #4 Luumis fly rod doesn’t cast very well at all. 8T
I was taught that version by an Italian guy just outside of Chicago. Need I say more?
All,
Received a response from Matt Berry - Owner/Outfitter, Teton Valley Lodge, that the Berry’s Super Stone Skwala’s abdomen is indeed WOVEN. Hope that settles that part of the discussion. I would like to know how it’s done though. BTW, I didn’t ask that part. It could be tip-top-top-top Secret!
Best regards, Dave S.
now that we know that its woven, whats the full recipe??
Normand,
Sent a request to Matt Berry for the info on the Super Skwala. Waiting/hoping for a reply.
Best regards, Dave S.
OK, here is my first attempt at tying the Berry’s Stonefly, Sorry the picture quality isn’t the best the wife left the camera at her office and I had to use my BlackBerry
I think Fishdog’s discovery just proves the point that we all worry far too much about our flies. If fifteen or twenty dedicated fly tyers can’t tell if a fly body is woven or dubbed from a reasonably clear photograph, I don’t think the fish can tell either in the large, rolling rivers of the West. I, for one, am not going to worry about some secret weaving method either. Remember our dear friend Al Campbell and his close-enough flies. Normand’s fly was more than close enough for me. Just my 2% of a dollar. I’m sure others will disagree. No offense is intended to anyone. 8T
8Ts,
I agree, Normans deciphered recipe for this pattern is pretty darn close and I’m sure of no consequence to the fish. However, this is the fly tying board and as such this is more(?) about the tying than the fish catching ability of the pattern. I want to know how the originator ties this pattern - just because I’m nosey!. There are also many tiers out there that are into woven flies and I’m sure would want to know the particulars about the woven abdomen. If I want to adapt/change/modify the Royal Coachman first I would have to know the original pattern. Right? This is the angle that I am approaching my thoughts/opinion from, just so no one thinks I am undermining their equally compelling argument based on their approach, and the answer they are seeking.
Best regards, Dave S.
popperfly,
You done very well “grasshopper”! That fly will catch fish!! I’m proud of you…Now be honest, wasn’t that more fun than playing a round of golf? I know it was cheaper!!! : )
