Need Help On Fly Recipe

Can anyone tell me the recipe for the “Berry’s Super Stone Skwala, Nymph, size 10” I cant find anything but a pictures of this fly.

tail and legs = brown biots
body = yellowish ice dubbing with a peacock shell and wire ribbing
wing cases = turkey
thorax = blackor peacock ice dubbing
gold bead

heres the link

[u]http://www.umpqua.com/ps-529-43-super-stone-berrys.aspx[/u]

use the color of ice dubbing called out in the chart in the link above

eg: salmon = orange ice dubbing

Normand,

I did locate that link but where did you get the material lists? also I was looking for the step-by-step instruction.

I think you just change links on me…lol

The prior link shows a good picture but that is it!! http://www.flyfishingoutfitters.com/trout_flies-skwala_stonefly_hatch-berry_s_super_stone_skwala

i got the material list by looking at the fly (almost 30 years tying flies can do that ;))

i changed the link because the umpqua had colors listed and you can see the materials better

i couldnt find a step by step but it shouldnt be any harder the tying a stonefly nymph

tying tip - stonefly bodies are 50% thorax & 50% body

step by step

put bead on hook

weight hook if you want it heavier

tie in tails

tie in wire rib

tie in peacock herls

dub thread with ice dubbing and wrap forward to the 50% point of the flies body

pull herls forward and tie down with thread

rib body with wire

trim turkey feather slip to wing case shape and tie in on top

tie in legs on each side

dub thorax

repeat for the next 2 segments of the thorax

To be fair, pretty sure Popperfly asked for the recipe, not a wild guess…

A closer examination of the profile shots on Leland’s site make me think that the abdomen of this fly is woven like a Bitch Creek Stonefly, although what material is used, I’m not quite sure. Underbody could be Krystal Chenille and the overbody could be a a dubbing brush of something like Arizona Synthetic Peacock, but do not know for sure. Tail, and legs are goose biots, wingcase is turkey, and thorax is Ice Dubbing as Normand stated, but this is an interesting enough pattern that I hope some can chime in with the real recipe.

To be fair, pretty sure Popperfly asked for the recipe, not a wild guess…

What I like about this board is how we treat each other in such a civil manner. Right?

REE

absolutely! one good turn deserves another. :wink:

popperfly,

heres the solution. buy 3 flies. 1 to fish and eventually lose, 1 to look at in your fly box and 1 to de-construct (reverse engineer)

Normand,

Very good, I like your thinking but there is one problem, I was hoping you would give me the answer to my question I know you’re the research a development department manager here on FAOL!! now please don’t let me down…lol :slight_smile:

sorry but the r & d department is gonna be shut down for a while. :smiley:

my dads health is a little more important right now :wink:

heres the fly in question

maybe someone else could decipher it

Planning on trying a new fly on the Elk…Jack PM’d me and said they went to the Elk and caught tons of fish the other day.

Bob

Normand, while looking at the link-Flytying New And Old I clicked on and attemped to sign up for the Flymph forum then realized that site/forum was “dead” is this correct?

I would agree that the abdomen appears to be woven, but the rest is pretty clear as Norm describes. Good heavens people this is fly tying, NOT rocket science. Tie it like it looks and see how well your compares. Or…since all the links point to buying this pattern, do that and look at the pattern first hand? Most flies up close, the average tyer can deduce the pattern like Norm did.

What I find interesting is that this pattern is not prefaced with “Bead Head” , I have one of Kauffmann’s Fly Patterns books, and it has 501 nymph patterns alone, and 140 of those nymphs (yes I counted them) are “Bead Head-something or another”. So why isnt this one a “Bead Head”

The Flymph Forum has moved to http://www.flymphforum.com/. Hope that helps.

REE

Popperfly,

Looked hi and lo on the web, nothing but pictures. The abdomen on the picture Norman provided looks pretty intricate to me. If the originator (Brian Berry) doesn’t provide the recipe somewhere/sometime in the near future, I would take Normans advice and purchase a copy and pick it apart. Although you may run into a problem duplicating his weaving method. BTW, Darrel Martin wrote an excellent book called, Fly-Tying Methods, dated 1987, which shows in great detail how to do about 5 different weaves. That’s the extent of my research, hope it helps.

Best regards, Dave S.

Dave,
I agree, I would like Normand advice once everything settles down with his father or anyone else that might know. The picture Norm posted is close to the one I would like to tie but here is the Berry’s fly I wanted to know the step-by-step to. http://www.flyfishingoutfitters.com/trout_flies-skwala_stonefly_hatch-berry_s_super_stone_skwala

It was the Berry’s fly that Normand was giving instructions too… that is obvious… His instructions work perfect for that fly…

Once you figure out what the abdomen and thorax materials are (or a close enough proximity thereof) add a bead and follow this tutorial and I’ll bet you’ll have the desired fly.
http://www.theweeklyfly.com/index.php/TheWeeklyFly/2009/01/19/gary-jones-woven-stonefly-23-24

If all else fails contact Berry directly and ask him if he will share the recipe.
http://tetonvalleylodge.com/contact/

However since this pattern appears to be under contract with Umpqua, he may not be legally allowed to share (which is probably why it’s not all over the web—yet), but it’s worth asking.

the flymph forum link on my blog works perfectly for me.