Does anyone here use pliobond or any other kind of sealant to cover there leader - line connection to prevent water soaking into tip of line.
How do I go about doing it? Do I put a dab on and spread it around to cover? Any tips would be helpful. Thanks for the help. -Chad
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I put Pliobond over the nail knot to give the knot a smoother profile. I just dab it on and make sure I’ve covered the whole knot by twirling the leader & line between my fingers a couple of times. I usually come back and give it a second application after it has set up somewhat.
Badger,
UV Knot Sense works well for me and makes a neat job. As a bonus, it is clear where the pliobond is brown. MHO
Bryan
Bryan-
Is Knot Sense pliable or is it hard and stiff?
Many go fishing all their lives without
knowing that it is not fish they are after.
Knot Sense is clear and thin. UV from the sun or a UV light will cure it up fast. When it is cured, it’s still a little pliable…not hard like super glue.
Knot sense dries clear and thin as bgreer said and is fairly flexible, nothing at all like super glue. I have only used the uv version though, and not the regular curing version.
Bryan
Bager…
Loon?s Knot Sense is the way to go. It will dry clear and flexible and be fairly abrasion resistant. There is a huge difference between the regular Knot Sense and UV Knot Sense. I have found that regular Knot Sense is WAY better than the UV product. The UV product tends to peal after a while. The regular Knot Sense only takes about twenty minutes to dry anyway.
I use goop… any kind, they’re all the same.
Pliobond… it’s a mystery to me why anyone would use that stuff at all.
This may sound strange but on my line that I use for nymphing I use florescent yellow fabric paint… on the leader knots too. It makes for a very visable, easily castable, strike indicator
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Mark Twain
Hi,
Since were on the topic of pliobond glue I am wondering is there another name for it. I went last week to find some to put on my nail knots and I went to 2 stores and nobody knew what it was.
Thanking you in advance,
Alan (salmonguy)
I thought (for years) that the sinking tip of a fly line was due to water seeping into the tip of the line but now believe that its something apart from that. I spent hours one winter trying to get this offending length of line to seal up and allow floating all the way to the end. No could do…you might be able to do it but I couldn’t. When I saw that the buoyancy of flylines is accomplished by mixing micro balloons into the plastic coating, and that the tapered section was accomplished by drawing the line through a die, I figured that the the increased pressure caused the micro balloons to be crushed…and the specific gravity to increase in that critical one foot or so tip of the line. Also there may not have been enough coating(the buoyant part0 to overcome the weight of the core.
My solution: Cut the SOB off and lengthen the butt section a little.
I doubt that there is an expert caster alive who could tell the difference while casting. I couldn’t…maybe we’ll get an answer from JC or Paralep et al.
Note…Microballoons are very tiny hollow glass balls…so small that they apear as a powder. They are also very delicate.
My opinions not to count if any line makers answer this. This question has been asked on this board (and others) many times without a good answer that I’ve seen.
Ol’ Bill
1932
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I put some Loons knot sense on usually, mainly because I keep snagging the fly on my nail knots with tailing loops and other generally poor casting techniques, and this seems to help. It also helps run through the runners for a quick cast if sight fishing.
My point is though that after reading several reviews I have learned that these products, from superglue to specialty knot products, make no difference to knot strength at all, merely smooth the profile.
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salmonguy,
Pliobond as not known by any other name. Some fly shops have it and some hardware stores have it. It comes in both a squeeze tube and in a bottle.
Hi gadabout,
Thanks for answering my question. I guess I will have to try a couple of more spots!!!
Thanks Again,
Alan (salmonguy)
Salmonguy
I don’t know about your location, but the Sportsman’s Warehouse in Anchorage has Pliobond on the shelves in the flyfishing area. Maybe you have a SW in your area or close by? You might even try a google search and order online…
Ed
Frank B
I think that you’re correct in this assumption. I tried to prove it but was only able to convince myself. I cranked down on a nail knot so tightly that I thought “no water is ging to get in there” but the very tip went down anyway. Therefore my solution is the best I’ve been able to come up with so far. I’ll try a few more experiments the next time I buy a new line. Frequent use of the line cleaner does wonders.
Ol’ Bill
1932
Nearnuff-
What does the match (heating) part do? Can water still seep in to this kind of connection?
By coating the juncture with knot sense does it make it heavier which in turn would make the tip sink?
Many go fishing all their lives without
knowing that it is not fish they are after.
Anyone ever used Flexement for this procedure?
Many go fishing all their lives without
knowing that it is not fish they are after.
What I do each time prior to beginning fishing is smear some Loon Payette Paste over and around the the knot/line connection and this seems to prevent the tip from sinking. I’ll add more during the course of the day if/when the effectiveness of the initial application wears off. I use a standard needle nail knot when connecting leaders to my fly line.