My Reno experience

My wife’s family has an annual get together at the Reno Rodeo in Reno, Nevada. They’ve been doing this ever since she was a kid. I have been tagging along ever since we met when she moved to Omaha from the bay area in California in 2004. 1500 miles (each way). Nearly 20 hours in the car. (the rest of her family is just over 3 hours away.) Well, since we made the trip last year I have become much more interested in fly fishing and started to wonder if there were any fish in the little river that ran through town. Later, with the help of the folks on the site I found out that the Truckee River is indeed home to “good” numbers of trout.

So, it was with high hopes that I made the toilsome drive west this year. We were all supposed to meet at the new Cabela’s west of Reno, near the town of Verdi before we convoyed over to the airport hilton where we would be staying. I thought that this would be a perfect chance to get a little advice and maybe any equipment that I might decide that I needed before trying my hand at trout fishing. You, the reader, must remember that suitable trout water is in somewhat short supply here in the omaha area. Thus, I have learned to be effective in catching bass, bluegill, and crappies, but have no trout experience.

We arrived at the Cabela’s at around 10 am on friday morning and I found my way to the fly shop inside. I was delighted when I was informed that the river was producing great numbers of smaller fish, even in the section that was 1/4 mile down the hill from the front door. The gentleman (I use this term somewhat loosely as he came accross with the same general persna tha tmakes used car salesmen famous)told me that the majority of the fish were being caught nymphing in the rocks using strike indicators and prince nymphs. After telling me this he proceeded to show me his favorite strike indicators. The word “bobber” seems entirely appropriate as a description of what he held in his hand. The package contained what appeared to be 4 translucent, pastel ping pong balls, each having a tab to poke the line thru. I decided that I would like something a bit more delicate as the sound of these “indicators” hitting the water might resemble a pork chop being thrown from a bridge and might scare fish. I selected a pack of smaller indicators, determined that my fly box was well enough stocked, purchased a license and hit the river for an hour. Nothing. I didn’t even see a fish.

After an hour or so I got a call that my wife’s family would be there in a couple minutes, so I picked up and left. I was planning to get up around 5 am and fish until about 10 before joining the rest of the family in the day’s planned activities. In the morning I was back at the river shortly after daybreak, throwing a size 18? EHC at likely spots because I had noticed several caddis on the water being eaten by fish. Not a big hatch, or a lot of fish, but I had planned to fish the day under the mantra “I just want one”. I figured any more than that was probably being a bit greedy my first time out. I fished slowly and carefully along probably a mile or so of river, switching to a nymph whenever I thought it was a better choice or after I thought I had beaten a section to death with the EHC. I even fished a couple of the stonefly nymphs I got from the stonefly swap after I saw acouple of stonefly shucks on rocks. No fish. I did manage to draw a few strikes on the EHC, but I am not sure that they were trout. I also saw one brown in the 18 inch range suck down a caddis right in front of me. Just one, and no more.

Eventually I was invaded by a couple of bait fishermen in army camo pants and I decided that my day was over. All in all I must admit that I accomplished about what I had expected to, that being that I got my feet wet, and a few hours of fishing in while in Reno. It made the drive home just a bit easier, and it will probably serve to ease the pain on the way out next year also. Who knows, maybe I’ll even catch a fish.

Fish

Hugefish, Nice thing about fly fishing, it will be better next time.

there is some good fishing in Utah and eastern nevada, if you stop along the way. I didn’t fish when I lived there but had some frends who did.

Eric

While large fish are taken from the Truckee in the Reno area the river is notorious for punching holes in peoples egos. Really good, experienced fly fishers regularly get skunked on the Truckee. There are plenty of fish throughout river and excellent hatches; everything from Stones and Green Drakes to PMD’s and Caddis. People who do well on the Truckee tend to fish it in the evenings, with the last hour or so of light being the best for dry flies.

I honestly did not expect to do all that well fishing the truckee. I made the trip with the idea of having a few hours to relax. If nothing else I now have a better idea of what I need to learn to do if I want to catch trout in moving water. First, I should figure out how to “nymph in the rocks”. I was tossing a prince up and across and letting the current carry it down on a dead drift thru the rocks. Not really sure if this was right. second, a bit more entomology knowledge might be useful. I recognized the stonefly because I had specifically looked them up, and I think what I say were caddis b/c the wings laid flat not up together. Other than that, I didn’t have much of a clue what I was seeing. Finally, I think I need to learn to tie smaller flies. this time i had very few flies smaller than size 16, and they looked a bit big compared to the bugs I was seeing.

This is GREAT news !!

I’m going to be fishing the Truckee and /or the Little Truckee early to middle of next week, and now if I get skunked it is with the FULL APPROVAL of a knowledgeable local fly fisher !!

Thanks, GW.

John

P.S. If you get back to this thread and have a chance to give me some tips here in the thread or by PM, would much appreciate it.

hugefish,

I’m really new at the fly tying thing but one thing I’ve learned is until you get really good at spotting the bugs and their sizes, to use this rule of thumb.

Whatever size you think the bug you’re seeing is, it’s really a size smaller than you estimated.

Ex. if you see a caddis and you think it is a size 16, it’s really most likely a size 18.

Like someone already said, the best thing about fishing is it is always better the next time.

Jeff

Actually I find this story TRAGIC at so many levels. The biggest mistake Hugefish made was going to Cabelas for advice. Let’s be serious here, should one really expect decent advice from someone at the counter of the fly department in a big box store? Especially someone giving off the vibes that Hugefish obviously picked up on?

Reno has a first rate fly shop (Reno Fly Shop, http://www.renoflyshop.com/) and if you had asked them where to fish, they would have been able to tell you where to go to find fish. And they would not have reached for the “Thingambobbers” when setting you up. Oddly enough, not only are the folks there more informed and helpful, the Reno Fly Shop actually has a better selection of gear than Cabelas does.

What is saddest about this story is that just 20 minutes away from where the guys at Cabelas sent you, the fishing has been excellent. Granted, the best hatches have been coming off in the evenings but this is one of the few times of the year when the Truckee can really produce with dries.

I am not trying to pick on Hugefish and it sounds like he had fun regardless, but there is definitely a moral to his story. If you want decent advice, you are always better off going to the local fly shop.

Whatfly -

Geeessh - I thought I had it made, and now you throw down the gauntlet !!

Just got off the Reno Fly Shop site a few minutes ago, and was encouraged about what to expect on the Truckee and Little Truckee. Since I was born in Portola and spent the first few years of my life in Sierra Valley, I am more inclined to fish the Little Truckee.

You did hit the nail on the head, several times.

John

Yes, I realize that cabela’s was not the ideal place. However, it was right there. I also spoke to the guys at the Reno Fly shop on my way out and they reccomended caddis and some green drake imitations. They also pointed me further west to California, Something that probably wouldn’t have worked given my time frame. I didn’t forget about the Reno fly shop, I just wasn’t able to get there before it was time to fish and it would have been frusterating to go afterwards. BTW, where should I have gone?

Fish

The better water was indeed in California and considering that you were right on the border, you wouldn’t have had that far to go. The prime water is the Wild Trout section below the town of Truckee, but you didn’t actually have to go all the way to town because there were a couple of pull outs to the east of town that would have worked as well.

That’s the sad part of the story. If you had asked as the fly shop, they would have told you the places to hit within your time frame. And the fishing has been excellent. If you’re in the area again, ask here for further specifics because there are quite a few Northern Californians hanging out on the board, as well as a few Nevadans from the area.

John - Here are the latest reports for the Tryuckee and Little Truckee. The Little Truckee is a tailwater that gets a lot of pressure so think SMALL, and stealthy. 6X and 7X Fluro tippets.

Fishery
[LEFT]Little Truckee River (between Boca and Stampede Reservoirs)

Water Conditions
Slight tint. Low to mid 50’s. Moderate flow (169 cfs)

Fishing Conditions[/LEFT]
[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=1][LEFT]Fishing is good. The PMD hatch starts around 10am. Fish a PMD nymph prior to emergence and switch to a cripple when the first heads break the
surface. A sparkle dun is a go to pattern when fish are taking duns. In the afternoon, fish a small hopper and dropper along grassy banks. There are
some caddis and PED’s hatching in the evening. Be sure to make accurate casts and good drifts. It is better to get close and kneel down than to struggle with a long cast and impossible drift.

Flies[/LEFT]
[LEFT]PMD emergers /cripples/dries Caddis pupa/emergers

Comments
Expect heavy fishing pressure, especially on weekends. Fish between
Boca and Stampede Reservoirs. NCDAG 81.[/LEFT]

[LEFT]Fishery[/LEFT]
[LEFT]Truckee River (Trout Creek to CA Stateline)

Water Conditions
Slight Tint, high 40?s to low 50?s. Slightly high flow (370 cfs).

Fishing Conditions[/LEFT]
[LEFT]Fishing is good. The best fishing is in the early AM and late PM. Start the day working the runs and pockets off Glenshire Drive with green drake and
PMD nymphs. Takes can be subtle so set on any movement in the line or indicator. Around 10am the PMD hatch is bringing fish up to sip silhouette duns and floating PMD nymphs. Evening hatches consist of green drakes, little yellow stones, PED?s, and caddis. Some nice sized rainbows and browns are being caught this week.

Flies[/LEFT]
[LEFT]PMD emergers/cripples/dries . Golden stonefly nymphs Green drake dries and Green drake nymphs

Comments
Good access at Glenshire and below Boca Reservoir. Expect moderate fishing pressure. NCDAG 81.[/LEFT]

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GW and Whatfly -

Thanks to both of you for the good information you have provided.

John

Now WHERE did I stash all my excuses ??