My first large-mouth (warm water in March?)

I am new to fly fishing; just started piddling about 2 years ago, tying too. Too darned busy to do it more often (thus, is exactly what I need). Don’t have much available in terms of mentors/buddies, even my kids & wife have no interest, so of course, I first hit books for getting-started research.

My initial/current interest is fresh water, ideally trout in spring-fed streams, but I’ll take whatever bites, and ponds will do, especially if they are closer. I’m in central Maryland, so trout fishing is limited. A so-so C&R stream is a 45-minute drive; have only seen 1 trout there. A better one is 1.5 hours away. Not worth it except for an all-day trip, and the better one is very, um, popular on weekends (no thanks).

The books I read discussed temperatures for trout and warm-water fish. They lead me to believe that l/m bass and other warm fish are almost entirely dormant in colder seasons, and you’d be unusually lucky (and skilled) to get any action from them. So I wrote them off outside of summer.

But then I came across this site, and read articles by Joe Hyde and others about fishing blue gill, crappie, and bass in ponds in the winter months. Huh?

Ok, definately worth a try. Last fall I discovered a pond at a park not 5 miles away with blue gill, and it’s small, surrounded by trees and brush, adjacent to soccer and football fields. There are some bobbers and lures in the branches, but I don’t think many people bother with this little bog, especially with all the trees and brush. This stuff is thick, growing and overhanging well into the water. There are 2 spots cleared enough to walk to the edge without hopeless entanglement in stickers 7-feet high. OK, 1 is cleared 6-feet wide, the other 6-inches wide. No back cast, and tree clearance is 10-feet up (tough with a 9-ft rod).

Work is killing me right now (60-70 hour weeks). I’m currently doing some remote computer work from home, very important stuff, of course. Saturday, I had errands in the morning and needed to help a guy flying in to the remote site from 1PM 'till whenever we finish. The weather here suddenly went from 30s/40s to 60s starting a few days ago. Driving me crazy (last fishing was once in December (1 brown) and once in November). At 4:30PM I got tired of waiting by the phone (and steamed) and put the rod/vest in the car to sneak in an hour of fishing . Went to grab the hat and go, and voila, he calls. Grrrr (GRRRRRR).

Sunday, finally sneak out for 2 hours in the afternoon, nobody around the pond except for 2 games in the fields. Since casting is difficult, and I’m new (and not a natural), I stick on an orange foam indicator fly with black rubber micro legs, looks like an orange Japanese beetle. No dropper (to start), no saturated feathers, no snagging/fouling on the bottom. Plus, I’m probably going to snag a tree and loose it quickly, so no great investment (was pretty easy and cheap to tie).

Went to the 6-inch wide zig-zag path and got some line out. Learned last fall to ungracefully wiggle some line out in a pile and then roll cast it. Remember, 10-ft up to braches, couple feet wide up there maybe, so it’s squat on the ground, toes in the water rod butt a couple inches above the ground/water, and roll it out (no clearance behind, either).

Bingo, blue gill right away, yeeha! Warm fish in the cold water does work. Again, again, again! Every cast a strike, almost every cast a landing. Yippee! Blow out those frustrations, this is a blast.

OK, this is WF5F and a 3X 7.5-ft Hi-Flote leader, no extra tippet (the fish don’t seem to be picky here). The fly is a 16, I think. In other words, casts relatively easy for my weak skill. I’ve only been going out 10-20 feet, trying to minimize snags and tangles. The strikes are slowing a little, so lets try to roll further. Yes, it worked; very happy; at least 30 feet, and almost straight. Bang. Hey, a skinny silver gill(?). No, I know what this is, it’s a large mouth bass. Very cool, a little guy, but I’m very happy, my first.

Let’s try that again. I had noticed that some of the takes were weak, and had learned that if I did a set, I could usually land the tentative taster. No rod set, or the whole thing comes out of the water and becomes an instant bird nest. OK, about my second cast out in the middle, got one of those sort-of strikes. Strip set, and hey, this guy is hooked and is heavier. Yippiekayay, a beautiful 10" large-mouth bass (good-sized pond fish in my book; shoot, the pond is only 60 X 100 feet). I am elated, a super hour.

I moved over to the more open spot and continued to bring in a gill every cast, and got another small bass. Sun is long gone, the county park closes (with gates) at dusk, and I’ve pushed it (figured I could since there was still noise from the gamers), but time to go. I have also shirked duty by missing the grocery unload and dinner prep., but my lady is knows I need a little slack now and then, and son was instructed to help.

Took off the fly I had tyed on when I got there. What a happy day. Thanks to God for some time, ability, and success playing with his fish and being in his nice yard.

This is pretty long, hopefully someone will enjoy it and maybe get past the warm fish/cold water misunderstanding I had.

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Hurrah for you! Can you believe you are one of the reasons we do this every week? We just may have saved your sanity for a while.


LadyFisher, Publisher of
FAOL

No question. And I think, to some extent, the sanity and benefit of those around me. Some might argue that this is causing a different form of insanity…

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David,
It IS a different form of insanity! Sounds like you handled the work related stress in a perfect way.
Mike


This site’s about sharing!

David,

I’d say you’re a candidate for an inexpensive float tube, one you can shoulder carry to that pond. Once you flipper out past shore (and those backcast snags) you might discover that your little pond harbors a surprising number of good fish.

Any pond surrounded by overhanging tree and shrub limbs that reach down into the water, this is a pond where you’ll almost always find bluegills. As those snagged bobbers you saw attest, the fish in that pond are pretty much invulnerable to bank fishing. But if you cast to them from the water side using a float tube they won’t be invulnerable to you.

Sure will be nice when warm weather and Daylight Savings Time comes; during the week you can hit that pond anytime and have 2 or 3 good hours of fishing light. That would take the ragged edge off any workday.

Joe

“Better small than not at all.”

David,
Nice post. I can relate. When I fish, I am happy to catch what is there and enjoy it for what it is. I am forever trying to fit in fishing between grocery runs, breakfast and work or whatever I can get away with.
Can’t wait for the nice weather to come up to these parts.

jed

send me your snail mail and I will send you a few flies to use.

RicK

David, your story is the perfect illustration that great pleasure can be derived from relatively small measures in flyfishing.

It’s also one that all warm water flyfishers can relate to and understand.

If you work that pond long enough, you’ll discover the seasonal holding patterns, and the best lies. You’ll be able to predict with some confidence the type and relative size fish you’ll find with any particular cast.

Great fun!

Jim

Welcome DavidinMD,
Glad to see another one hooked.
…lee s.

Inspiring!


“Give me ambiguity or give me something else”

Thanks folks. It’s good to have some ears here when the people in my world have little care about these adventures and discussions (er, “tales” to use proper lingo).

Joe: I’m in the Baltimore-Washington corridor, where everything, er, must be controlled and politically correct. So for the county parks, no wading, boating, spitting, unleashed dogs…, anything fun and wholesome that somebody could possibly abuse or be in danger from. I’ll double check, but I’m pretty sure float tubes are ranked up there with with explosives. I shall be on the search for acceptable places.

Rick: Thanks, I turned on my email option too. Let me know if you have any interest in my indicator beetle. It ain’t much, but if it works…

HLK: Great strategy, glad you’ve found lots of spots and opportunities. Around here, people are so darned concerned with lawsuits, crime, and too much of themselves vs others, access to much close water is unlikely. But I shall search.

All: So the same park has another larger pond that initially got my attention. But this one has nothing cleared. 1 side is thick trees and brush into the water, the rest has a perimeter of cat tails in the water. Any ideas? I tried it once, but just couldn’t keep out of the cat tails or grass/brush behind. Again, no wading or boating. Perhaps heavy leader (less tangles) and heavy weed guards. Seems like more frustration than fun.

davidinMD - go ahead and post the full pattern for your beetle - hook size, foam width, etc. We can’t have too many patterns available!!

Donald

DavidinMD, that other pond sounds like a candidate for dapping and bow-and-arrow casting by those trees. You can also adjust your cast to shoot the line almost vertically on the back cast, but that doesn’t help if the trees are overhanging above you, just behind (and it also cuts your distance down) . You’re pretty hosed with the cattails, unless somebody or something else has already cleared a path threw.

Stilts?

Jim

OK, I finally posted the pattern in the Fly Tying forum [url=http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/Forum5/HTML/005679.html:e5e16]http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/Forum5/HTML/005679.html[/url:e5e16]
for what it’s worth.

Got some sample flies from Rick; thanks, dude, some really nice, interesting ones. Very kind of you.

J: I think I know what you mean by “bow and arrow casting”. I often used this to initially get out on the water. Another humble laugher, but if it works…

Got back there again on Friday. Managed to get a few casts in the front pond; don’t think anything is there now. Had a bit more fun back at the magic hole.

That’s great David. Certainly the kind of day that makes it all worth while.

And kudos on making the best of a difficult fishing area.


Ed Mercado
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