I was reading the topic on loop to loop, seems like some of the line makers are putting on a welded loop to the line, I like it because of the ease of changing leaders on the water but I do find it gets hung up, havent lost a fish yet.
I’v also tried those cortland loop to loop connectors and while I am still using them I think I am going to the butt section and blood knot instead. I had one of those loops come apart while I was casting it and the whole leader went down stream.
I have also tried those reconnects and they do go through the guides fairly smoothly and are pretty easy to change on the water but now that I am using sinking tips and leaders that sink that is not versitile enough. From what I am reading on the board it comes down to preferance of course, I think for the cost of the line leader connection systems out there in my opinion they are not any better than any other means of attaching you leader to your line.
"I’v also tried those cortland loop to loop connectors and while I am still using them I think I am going to the butt section and blood knot instead. I had one of those loops come apart while I was casting it and the whole leader went down stream. "
I’m curious if that was factory installed or if you made it?
I am confused. You guys keep asking for the SMOOTHEST transition to go through your guides, so now you have two loops (Line and leader) then a little farther up you now have a knot (blood knot) to go through you guides, plus however long you decide to make your Butt section added to the length of leader. :?:
I am confused. You guys keep asking for the SMOOTHEST transition to go through your guides, so now you have two loops (Line and leader) then a little farther up you now have a knot (blood knot) to go through you guides, plus however long you decide to make your Butt section added to the length of leader. :?:[/quote]
FG…I agree…I wouldn’t use a butt section in that situation either…
What I was headed for… thinking he probably installed the chinese loop himself… was to point out the ways that he could make them more secure if he indeed wants to use them…
I have been using a floating line with the welded loop for a few years now and I have found it to be very smooth passing through the tiptop. I honestly cannot remember one time that I had trouble with it being hung up while I fought/landed a fish. I have used the Cortland installable loops, nail knots, blood knots, albright knots…I haven’t found anything as smooth as a welded loop. Even when using a very long leader the loop slides back through the guides very smooth and without hand-ups. I’ve seen nail knots slip, albrights get hung up, blood knots fail, and installed loops slip off. Welded loops seem more fail-safe to me than most other options. Just my experience.
If you are looking to attach a mono butt section to a straight fly line I’d recommend using an albright or blood knot depending on what you are fishing for, and cover the knot with Loon’s UV Knot Sense to smooth the surface. UV Knot Sense cures when it is exposed to sunlight, so rotating the line to make a smooth bubble is recommended before exposure to sunlight or a UV beam. Be warned, it will harden quick once it is in direct sunlight. You can use regular Knot Sense as well, which cures in about 20 minutes. Then you don’t have to worry about the knot slipping or getting hung up in your guides. Hope that helps.
