IMO and I mean IMO…
Finally some one in government any government talking sense when it comes to how we screwed up with the seals and sea lions to a lesser extent…
About time to take action.
Just watch PETA and Pukepeace I mean Greenpeace get their P**ties in a bunch…:rolleyes: but even they can’t deny the mess the seal populations are in on both coasts… or the trouble they cause, fishermen being bitten taking fish off their hooks for catch and release etc…
Ray,
I think it was last year on the Columbia at Bonneville Dam. The salmon run was late and the Sea Lions started chowing down on the sturgeon. The Sea Lions knew approximately when the salmon were supposed to be at the Dam and showed up early. 
Doug
You have not lived till your sitting in a 12ft aluminum boat, bringing in a pink salmon over the side and have a 1200+ lb bull sea lion take it off you. He hit the side of the boat nearly tipping it over. He lunged up and grabbed the fish and was gone In an instant. It happened so fast the young kid in the front of the boat felt the bang but didn’t even see the sealion. We were about a mile offshore in a tide rip, I turned the boat and headed for shore.
My friend and I never went out in anything less than a 30 footer after that. The kid in the front of the boat was 13. He is still miffed he didn’t see it. I read where they have even followed a fish right into the boat. Scarey stuff. The damage they do to the steelhead and salmon runs is horrendous.
I wonder if any one from the mega corp of PP I of course mean Greenpeace follow up on what the effect of their actions has on the environment?
I any one is a member of GP then plse enlighten me on this… just what did you accomplish by getting the seal hunt stopped.
Too bad eco activists weren’t swimming around then instead of the sturgeon… :rolleyes:
The only ones I truly don’t like is Green Peace and PETA, and only when they act out of emotion instead of solid facts and truths… I do know that there are others out there that are as bad or worse but don’t come to mind at this time.
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The only ones I truly don’t like is Green Peace and PETA, and only when they act out of emotion instead of solid facts and truths… I do know that there are others out there that are as bad or worse but don’t come to mind at this time.[/quote]
i agree with you all the way on that one. and the sad thing is that i have yet to see either of them act out of solid facts and truths rather than just emotion once!
Here is some good news!;http://www.publicaffairs.noaa.gov/releases99/may99/noaa99r128.html
Doug
Am i to understand some of your comments right, in that you all support the killing of the sealions in an effort to protect salmon and steelhead?
jeff,
I think Salmon & Steelhead should be put on the Endangered List for 5 yrs, build the runs back (Eliminate Hatchery & Farmed Salmon), tear down the Dams and start over. Killing a few Sea Lions isn’t going to help the Salmon runs, it will help the Fishermen who have to put up with the Sea Lions. Public opinion is driving this Proposal and it’s a short term idea.
That’s my opinion.
Doug
I don’t think any true sportsman would really advocate killing the sea lions as the best way to address this problem, or as a long - term solution. However, the notion that there are certain “problem animals” certainly seems valid to me. A couple years ago we were at Bandon, Oregon, Crabbing off the docks there with crab rings. There were many peopls there, including several small children. Lots of sea lions hang around the harbor there in various places, depending on the time of year. There were four or so of them stayng pretty close to the docks, quite interested in the crab action. Often they would grab the undersized crabs as folks were tossing them back. One of these animals was a huge bull, well over 1000#… He would grab the rings, trying to get the bait, and have a regular tug o war with folks, some just letting him have it. On a couple occasions, he junged clear up onto the dock after the crab rings and their contents. This obviously distressed people, kids and adults alike. The crabbing was pretty much over for that day, at least there. Some of those folks would have been delighted to have someone shoot that big fella. The problem isn’t altogether the sea lions, but, they certainly play a part. In San Francisco Bay, they arrive in such numbers that they have actually taken over large numbers of boat dock facilities near the Pier 91 shopping areas along Fisherman’s Wharf.
Relocating some problem individuals may be very effective in some cases. I, personally tend to agree with Doug about restoring the Salmon and Steelhead runs, Re: Dams, and Hatchery fish, listing them as endangered for a time, and building the runs back. Healthy numbers of fish in the runs would really go a long way toward solution of the sea lion predation problem. This is only my opinion…ModocDan
Kill all sea lions and kill all seals.?
NO!
[SIZE=2]Accept that we and our elected and appointed officials and experts screwed up and start to make a move in the right direction to repair the damage.
on both sides of the longest undefended boarder, and of course around the world…
[SIZE=7]YES!
[SIZE=2]What is that start or step DAMNED IF I KNOW, but we do have to do something!
I have some ideas but some of you will not like them.
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Rather than killing the sea lions, how about we just relocate 'em to pack ice inhabited by a lot pf polar bears?
Ed
You have my vote for man of the year! Add about 3 million starving seals of all types, and the plan would be perfect…