Careful Duck,
She’s married to a big mean ornery dude
and he’s been know to check the boards here
from time to time. Warm regards, Jim
That’s a great story Jack. I’ve been involved in sticky situations where keeping a cool head made a difference between failure and success. If you insist on pointing fingers and placing blame you lose valuable time and and even worse, you lose the employee that made an honest mistake. Even if the individual remains with the company, he or she will probably never trust you again.
They have a saying where I work, “If its not communicated in writing, it hasn’t been communicated.” It solves alot of these issues. I think it’s better to "agree to disagree’ than upset someone to the point of them losing it. I’m afraid you burned a bridge, as much as I can understand your frustration. Good Luck on the next project…
Hywel,
The OMM is not a panacea for quality management although a quality manager will probably exhibit the traits described. I simply said it was a good easy read. It certainly has some generalized good information.
By the way, if you’re going to label this book as a trend of a specific decade, at least get the decade right! Also interesting is that the same author was/is highly regarded in the sphere of management and quality performance.
Allan
Allan
i would have beat the engagment manager to it and started crying. that would have changed the tone of the whole meeting 
D&^%$ it, Micus. I just spit out coffee all over my screen!
BTW, I still don’t know what an engagement manager is. And after reading this thread I’m more glad than ever that I went into my line of work. Oh yeah… the gender stuff is ridiculous. Either the original poster WANTED it to be about gender, in which case, the post could have been shortened to “working under a woman sucks” or he didn’t in which case the responses about working for women are well, sexist. Yes, I said it. I usually avoid this topic. I’ll stop now and won’t be posting responses about the gender stuff again. But please, what does an engagement manager do?
Diane
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming-WOW—What A Ride!
Manages engagments–isn’t it obvious?
Diane,
In all seriousness, if I was to hear that phrase, I’d think ‘pimp’ or ‘madam’.
Allan
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Allan. In all seriousness… me, too!
Maybe one step below “Wedding Planner”?
I feel more like I do now than I did when I got here!
Cactus AKA “Lucky Dog (Pirate Name)”
I think it’s a little pipe-smoking Irishman that drove John Wayne & Maureen O’Hara around while thy were courting! (“The Quiet Man”) 
Mike
This site’s about sharing!
In laymans terms as opposed to politically correct nomenclature it’s probably " the dude that does stuff" . But I agree that as far as job descriptions go, I would veer away from this one. Conjures up images as illustrated in the above posts.
Mark
Ohiotuber (MIke) that was Micheleen Oge, also known as Barry Fitzgerald or Father something or other in every Irish film ever made.
I’d rather be in Wyoming!
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