Help please. Where would you go?

My wife indicated today she would entertain joining me on a fly excursion, but she doesn’t fish. So, using the following criteria, where would you go?

  1. Don’t break my bank. A few thousand for both of us is plenty to spend.
  2. Can be in USA, Carribean or Western Europe
  3. Must have something else to do in the area other than fishing and staying at the lodge!! No remote locations.
  4. Please don’t say the Florida Keys because I love them and go there frequently. Same for Aspen and Gunnison and Arkansas.
  5. Somewhere I can wade would be nice.
  6. Guides must speak English
  7. I don’t care if the fish are enormous. Blue water fishing and huge salmon in Alaska don’t excite me. Good opportunities for a number of fish is just fine. A few bonefish and a permit, rainbows and a nice brown or two, fat bluegill and a healthy largemouth, that sort of thing.

Thanks
Bob

I suggest 2 places, both would be different from your current location. The first would be New England in the area from Great Barrington, Mass, to New Hartford, CT. You could fish the Housatonic or the Farmington for brown trout. There is everything from camping to wonderful inns in the area. Lots of good ‘regular’ shopping, as well as plenty of antiques. Lots of history including the homes of Herman Melville, Edison, Mark Twain and Norman Rockwell. The Boston Pops plays at Tanglewood not far away.
Otherwise I guess the place to go would be the Rocky Mountains, and since I am from Canada I would say to Banff, Alberta and the Bow River, or the Elk River just over the mountains in BC. There is also golf, gift shops, spas, tours for wildlife sightings, trail rides and lots of good restaurants. The trip there and back would be interesting in itself.
Good luck.

My wife (who does not fish) and I are going to Gatlinburg, TN next month. I am going to spend a day fishing in the spring creeks of the Great Smoky Mountain National Park. Native brook trout, rainbows, and browns can be small but in such a beautiful location. Shopping, country music, excellent food, front country and back country camping, and many other amenities. I am spending the day with a published author, guide, and graduate of UT-Knoxville. I assure you he speaks English. (Don’t know the rules on using names on the BBS.) Fly in to Knoxville and you are an hour away.

The Michigan Fish-In…Of Course:D

What I’d love to do is go to Florida and chase big bluegills and exotics! A day or two of warmwater fishing, a day of bonefish, and a day of snook in the mangroves would be one heck of a trip!
I know Disney in Orlando has several nice C&R lakes for largemouth bass. Dad went down last year and caught several fish over 10 lbs in one morning on spinning gear… That would be incredible on a fly rod!

Another idea would be some “famous” places… the Susquehanna for smallies, somewhere in Montana for trout(pick 3 or 4 for that matter), Okechobee or Fork for largemouths, Reelfoot for bluegills and crappie.

Depends on what you’ve got the itch for!

Teton Mountain Lodge, Jackson ( Teton Village) Wyoming. I can see NO problems there with any of your stated requirements.
That would be my choice and in fact my wife and I do EXACTLY that in late September early October. She also does not fish but has PLENTY to occupy her time at the LOdge in Grand Teton NP, Yellowstone NP or Jackson while I pursue the elusive denizens of the local waters.

Mark
Currently in Kalifornia but…

So, Gunnison is right out? Jeez, I was gonna’ say Gunnison, then go the that Lottza Mottza pizza place in Mantai, but ok:

Have you tried the waters of Lowell ID where they do the fish-in? Great place pretty much no matter what time of year.

And, althought I have only read about this, aren’t there some cool tarpon opportunities in AL? Kinda’ near you, and easy to find your desired accommodations?
Have a fun season!

Following up on Greg’s thread, if you go to Western MA, send me a PM and I can point you to an exccelent local guide that will float you down the Deerfield or other river. I live in Western MA and fishing is good. Travel 3 hours and get to world class Striper fishing if that is interesting.

Other suggestions are NewFoundland if your wife likes nature and small towns, but one of my favorite places is Ireland. Good Salmon fishing, beautiful places to tour historic, folk loric and plently of shopping. People speak English, fishing is not that expensive and people are wonderful.

jed

We went to jackson lake lodge last year, had a guided float trip down the snake, wife went along to sight see, I got to fish. Scenery was great, saw elk, eagles, otter, ospray, the tetons, and lots of cutthroats! Also horseback riding, hiking, yellowstone close by also the touristy town of jackson for shopping and dining. The night sky was something to see, no light pollution, the stars and shooting stars were unbeliveable. The only possible downside I saw was there was only one good resturant close by, jackson was about 30 miles one way, a little long for a trip for dinner maybe. Wife wants to go to Chico (sp) Hot springs/lodge next, that may also fit the bill.

Yellowstone country perhaps? You could stay in West Yellowstone, book a guide with Blue Ribbon Fly Shop, and have access to any of the Park’s rivers (or lakes), the Madison, or even the Henry’s Fork, etc. There’s the whole Park and nearby attractions that would have plenty for the wife to do also.

Or, you might want to consider Helena, MT where there is lots for the wife (and you) to do when not fishing, including gold mining tour/history, the state capitol, museum, and (my wife’s personal favorite) the boat tour through the Gates of the Mountain on the Missouri River. From there you could book a guide to fish the Missouri River.

You could easily split your time between both these locations, prehaps even spend a day in Bozeman if you drive between the 2 places, as well as have as much wading opportunites as you’d ever want.

John

If you have never been to the birth place of fly fishing I would suggest the Catskills. Good fishing plenty of history great folks. In Roscoe there is the Baxter House B&B also the famous Rockland House.

I would second the recommendation for the Great Smoky Mountain National park area. My better half and I spend a week there each year, and there is always something new to do and discover. She does not fish, but always finds plenty to do and enjoy while I am fishing or in conjunction with it. The Gatlinburg/Pigeon forge area has literally tons of things to choose from in the way of restaurants, attractions and shows.

Within the park, there are lots of things for the fisherman and the non-fishing types to enjoy. Cade’s Cove has the old settlements and mill that are open to be explored, along with wildlife in the area that is quite accustomed to the presence of humans. You can expect to see turkey, deer and black bear in the area at about any time. The road through Cade’s Cove also gives you access to the trail head for the waterfall on Abram’s Creek, which is a favorite attraction in the area. And as luck has it, Abram’s is one of the best streams to fish in the park, so you can combine the hike to the falls with some fishing along the way. Another area of the park that is a must see is the Cataloochee Valley. This is where the elk herd has been introduced to the park. Going there, it won’t be a question of if you see an elk, but rather how many, and how close they will be. “Close” in some cases can be measured in feet. Cataloochee Creek flows through the valley, and it can be very good fishing. It’s also one of the places in the park that you can catch the “Smokey’s Slam” of a brook, a brown and a rainbow all in the same stream. Clingman’s Dome is another “must see” spot in the park for it’s fantastic vistas of the area. It’s an “easy” 3/4 of a mile, hour plus hike up to the structure. However, as it is one of the highest points in the park, the view is worth the effort. Another popular vista to see is the Chimney Tops, which is a bit longer hike, as it takes about 2 hours. However, the one section of the trail actually follows Road Prong Trail. Road Prong is one of the streams in the park that has a population of native Southern Appalachian Brook Trout, which are actually genetically different from their northern cousins more commonly caught in the northeast. And while the stream is bordered by a fairly popular trail, not many people actually fish it. A good fish there is 8", and they are plentiful. Last summer I picked up 9 8"+ fish in about a 100 yard section of the stream while we were on our way back from Chimney Tops.

With respect to a place to stay, the Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge area has every kind of hotel or lodge you can ask for. However, we like to stay a bit out of the tourist rush, so to speak, so we get a cabin in the Townsend area. The views are much nicer, and if you want the hustle and bustle of Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge, it’s only about a 20 minute drive away. If you google up “Townsend TN fly fishing”, you will find the local fly shop listed there. I’d put their name in here, but I don’t know for sure if the rules of the board allow that for a non-sponsor. They are about the nicest group of folks you could ever ask to deal with, and are very knowledgeable about the park and it’s fisheries. A call to the shop, or a stop in there, and they can tell you the areas to target, as well as what is working at the time. I’m sure they can also recommend a few guides to talk to as well.

There are some good books on fishing in the park that were written by Jim Cassada and Ian Rutter (who I think is the guide that billhouk has hooked up with) that give you some good insights to the park waters, and how to access them. With 700+ miles of wild trout streams to choose from, there is always new water to explore.

If you decide to head to the park, feel free to PM me, and I can pass onto you in more detail what I know of the area.

Bob

I would consider spending a little more, flying to Chile for a week of fly fishing in the Coyhaique area – say with Rumbo Patagon / Coyhaque River Lodge (sp?) a small outfitter with a new lodge and “eco-things” to do, then hopping over the Andes to Argentina to maybe Mendoza for wine tasting if your into it --or just go straight to Buenos Aires for a week and check out a great city.

The recent earth quakes have probably scared a few people away so there may be some great deals to be had.

I took my wife along for this very trip – she fished a couple of days in Chile and the crew took her on a site seeing trip while I fished the other days. She thoroughly enjoyed herself. Buenos Aires can keep you busy for quite a while and by mosts standards is very inexpensive and a great value. Great restaurants, nice people, very cosmo – and there are enough people speaking english that it is easy living.

Hello Bob,

For my part, I’d pitch the alpine settings of central Sierra’s ( Tahoe / Truckee ) north to the Mt. Lassen area over to Burney Falls and then west to Siskiyou County and the Mount Shasta area. Basically you could fish along the entire route of Highway 89 from Lake Tahoe to Mt. Shasta.

You can go from a mountain metropolis to absolute solitude in very little time. You can confirm the fishing opportunities easily enough, by running searches on the East Carson R., West Carson R., Truckee R., Little Truckee R., Feather R., Hat Creek, Burney Creek, Pit River, McCloud R. and Upper Sacramento River and that doesn’t include any of the Stillwater opportunities, large and small.

Guides are plentiful, but honestly Bob, I’ve read some of your stuff and you’re an accomplished angler. I really believe with a few tips about patterns, areas and regional technique preferences, you’d get up to speed quickly enough on your own. Fly shops dot the entire route.

Commonly, area visitors fly into Reno, Nevada and Sacramento, California, where car rentals are available. Lodging levels and cost vary a lot from point to point and so if price is an object a little flexibility is necessary.

Trip timing ( month of the year ) would be helpful too, while it’s going to be in the low seventies here today, by early next week we’re expecting another dusting of snow up the hill.

It would probably be helpful to know what activities you wish to do together when you’re not fishing, since that seems to be a determining factor and would help us narrow down whether our ideas, offer those alternatives. Although in the greater Tahoe, Truckee, Reno areas, there are countless activities for the non-angler.
I’m in the Sierra’s most every week so if you decide to go that route, I’d be happy to fill in some of the gaps.

Just a taste: http://www.totalescape.com/tripez/trips/89.html

Regards, Dave


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The Catskills were wonderful, just not fishable - we were there mid-summer twice. All streams except the West, and East Branches of the Delaware were too hot to fish - 72 and up! The history was great - fishing sucked.

I was there one year in June and had the same problem. I now do a through research before I head anywhere. Last year when I was in the Catskills it rained almost every freakin day but did get to fish. This year it looks as if Mt, Id and Wy are going to have low water years by Sept. So I am considering the UP of Mich. and the Catskill’s in June.

I am with Dave E on this. I would just start a little further south. with time available, I would start at Hot Creek around May 15th. Then head north to the Walker, the Carson(s), through the Tahoe Region (nice playce), fish Truckee, Little Truckee, and continue along the rest of Dave’s itenerary

I’ll be at Rifle River SRA that week-end. How far away is that from the fish-in location?

Perhaps ask her where she would like to go, then look into whats available near by for fishing…