I can’t seperate the first two sections of my fly rod (a four piece Sage Launch Series 9’ 4 wt.)
Any suggestions (I know the potential here for some witty replies, but I really need some serious help with this).
Thanks,
Andrew
Hi, THis has work for me and was reccomended by others. Use ICE. Take a cube of ice or better get some ice in a zip-loc baggy. Apply the ice to the outside of the connector in the section that is stuck. Get it really cold and it should expand and the rod will come apart. To keep this from happening again, though it may sound gross, rub the piece you insert into the next section on the side of your nose. The little bit of body oil should keep this sticking from happening again. Hope this helps!!
KAHUNA
It happened once to one of my spinning rods. It was a fiberglass rod, so I don’t know if it may be harmful for graphite rods (assuming that’s your case).
I used WD-40. Applied a little let it sit for a while and then the parts separated easily.
Hope it works for you…and remember to lubricate those parts of the rod that come together. There’s an article here that tells you how to do it, I think it’s in the beginers section.
Dave
Ps. here’s the link:
[url=http://www.flyanglersonline.com/begin/101/part34.html:f0865]http://www.flyanglersonline.com/begin/101/part34.html[/url:f0865]
[This message has been edited by dphotoco (edited 17 August 2005).]
Andrew,
I had the same problem on my 2 pc. rod a few weeks back and I nearly ruined the rod, here’s what you do:
Place the rod behind your knees, knees together with the furl joint in the middle, place your hands against the side of each knee gripping the rod firmly, then spread your knees apart being sure the rod is pulled as straight as possible. This should seperate the rod sections without damaging the furl or guides.
If that doesn’t work, here’s another method which requires the help of another person:
Standing facing one another, each person places their right hand on the rod section close to the furl joint nearest them. Then each person places their left hand just beyond the other persons right hand so they have one hand on each side of the furl joint.
(Be sure your hands will not pull against any of the guides) Then pull the rod as straight as possible to avoid damaging the rod.
To avoid this trouble in future, do not put rod sections together with any twisting motion. Use a light grease to lubricate the furls, NOT OIL since it will create a vacuum in the joint and compound the problem. The best lubricant to use is found along the side of your nose or in your hair. (True)
I got these ideas out of the “Trout Fisherman’s Bible” which I bought at the flea market for $3. It saved my rod.
If you need an illustration of the 2 man method let me know and I’ll email the picture from the book.
There’s almost nothin’ wrong with the first lie, it’s the weight of all the others holdin’ it up that gets ya’! - Tim
JC, I had a College Professor that insisted that I do the same thing (“look it up yourself”) and I spent the better part of 3 evenings in the stacks at the library before I found the answer. (To all you young whippersnappers this was before computers were available, much less the Net)
I never forgot to solution to my problem but I never had to use that information again in my entire life!! At the time I was really p.o.ed at him but looking back he had as much educational influence on me as any other educator in my scholastic days.
What I did learn though was how to have perseverance when researching a subject.
Having said that, I just used ieSpell to check the big words and it worked!!
Snow on the roof but with fire still in the hearth
The ice cube trick works great just make sure those ice cubes don’t get too lonely by giving them a few 12oz adult neighbors to keep them company.
I have a little sliver of soap, that I apply to the male end of the connection. This prevents a waxy build-up in the female end of the connection.
Ron Kusse taught me that soap was better than wax, because soap is water soluble.
Message corrected using ieSpell
~Parnelli
Had the same problem with my SageLL last fall. My experience was that ice, heat, WMD’s etc didn’t work. The simple solution is to use two people, each pull straight on opposite ends.
Al
I’m really curious as to when that line about not using “nose oil” made it into the tutorial on rod care. It seems just a little too convenient…
Ed
i’ve been able to release a stuck rod by putting on (unused) leather work gloves, gripping the rod about 8 inches on either side of the stuck ferrule, and applying steady pressure. the gloves give you purchase so your hands don’t slip (and break a guide)
Heat expands
Cold contracts
WD might discolor your rod…I’ve got one that I found discolored after storing and I can only think it was the WD.
JC I’m too long in the tooth to spend 3 days doing a search…
Silvertop , it’s amazing how often I’ve found misspellings in even the simplest posts…so I’ve gotten so I do it routinely.
Respect Your Elders!
I just pulled apart a spinning rod last weekend with the behind the knees tech. This rod had been together for years. I never would have tried it had I not read it here. Dad told me to put a little vasolene (sp) on the male end. I didn’t try that yet. I thought that might make a magnet for dirt? Seems like it would have the same effect as the nose oil though. I guess?
Matt
When experiencing a similar situation, I found it difficult to obtain a good non-slip grip on the rod sections. To overcome this, I cut a cheap foam rubber computer mouse pad into two pieces. Using the rubber side on the rod, I wrapped them around the two sections and was able to separate them. These two pieces of mouse pad now reside in my tackle bag and have been used several times, mainly to help out for fishing buddies 
. I think with the ice and the mouse pads as grips you will get them apart.
Good luck.
Jim Smith
I would think that latex gloves would do the trick too. I always keep a couple pair in my first aid box.
Snow on the roof but with fire still in the hearth
I had this problem last week actually… I found a little dishsoap right at the joint rubbed in well. Then take two dishtowels and grab at both sides… try to spin the one end and as spinning slowly pull it out…Was jammed like hell…seemed to do the trick…
A little advise…NEVER PUT THE ROD BEHIND YOUR KNEES!!! This is as old and as poor advise as rubbing the male ferrule on your nose. First ice is the way to go if the ice doesn’t work try to get another person to help you, each of you put a hand on either end of the stuck ferrule and pull together. Next time remember to put a little wax on your male ferrule(graphite rods) or soap if it’s a nickel silver ferrule(bamboo rods).
I use the Atlas Fit work gloves. They are tight fitting and have soft rubber on the inside that gives you amazing grip. I find that twisting rather than pulling works best.
I remember LF stating that a few hours in a walkin freezer will do wonders…someone had a cane rod stuck in the rod building fourm a while back…grasping either side of the joint with the rod behind the knees is a safe bet as well…it’ll keep ya from pull off angle and breaking the rod…hair dryer might do it is the cold does’nt…wish you luck…Hope you get it apart without damage…
“I’ve often wondered why it is that so many anglers spend so much money on,and pay so much attention to.the details on the wrong end of the fly line.If they took as much care in selecting or tying their flies as they did in the selection of the reel and rod,They might be able to gain the real extra edge that makes it possible to fool a fish that has,in fact,seen it all before” A.K.Best
“Wish ya great fishing”
Bill
DON"T TWIST…That can create some nasty and undo force as well as , If there is grit inside ,can create some deep gauges/scratches that may not effect the rod now…but sometime down the road may well cause blank failure!!!
“I’ve often wondered why it is that so many anglers spend so much money on,and pay so much attention to.the details on the wrong end of the fly line.If they took as much care in selecting or tying their flies as they did in the selection of the reel and rod,They might be able to gain the real extra edge that makes it possible to fool a fish that has,in fact,seen it all before” A.K.Best
“Wish ya great fishing”
Bill
This same thing happened to me a couple of weekends ago while camping. My Cabelas 5 pc 3 wt travel rod was not coming apart. I had put it together in the morning coolness and wanted to pack it up late in the afternoon before we had to break camp the next morning. It was now about 90 degrees and the rod was stuck at ALL the joints. I did the behind the knees method. At first it didn’t work, but I kept trying all the joints and finally got them all apart. I hadn’t lubed the ferrules recently and it stuck due to the expansion as it heated up during the day.
Save yourself some future trouble. Do a search on Ferrule Lube on this BB forum. You’ll find all you need (and more).
Mike