I’v had trout time and time again setting at the head of a deep pool just under the current. I can see them down there but can’t get a fly down deep enough fast enough to draw there interest. The current up top always sweeps the fly down stream b-4 it has a chance to drop. Casting it to far above the head of the pool just causes it to go to the bottom and hang up so I need to cast into the current and as it flows into the pool the fly needs to drop into the deep part quick. I’m headed to work in a few, when I get home I’m gonna tye some sort of copper john’s to try. I wanna avoid split shot, I’m not saying that I may not still go to that but I don’t like that method.
What I would like would be any other suggestions you guys may have on flys or methods…
Do you know how to make a tuck cast? This puts the fly in the water before the leader hits and lets it sink quickly. Google intructions from someone who can explain it better than I can. I don’t want to be responsible for you bashing your head with a copper john.
Check out Peter Frailey’s web site and check out his Mini Jig pattern. I really like it for the faster deeper water here because it gets down very quick and stays down fairly well. I usually fish it with a “high stick” method to help keep the fly line out of the water as much as possible. His mini jig tied with a tungsten bead should do the trick for you. While at his site, check out his other flies which will be listed under the heading of , “My Favorite Flies”. He has some really good patterns and they do work.
Tuck cast, up stream roll cast? hmmm Ok, I googled tuck cast, I’v got an understanding in my mind of how a up stream roll cast would work, that gives me a couple of things to try instead of trying to talk the fly down…lol you know the “Come on fly drop!” that goes on in my mind as the current sweeps it down stream lol That hasn’t worked very well… Thank you all for your input…
Some other considerations Grubb…and they’re all important to aid you…
Along with the upstream mend which is a must, present your cast so it snaps tight above the water and drops your weighted fly straight down. Then immediately do that mend…like IMMEDIATELY!
A slight hesitation and you lose much.
Tungsten bead, as mentioned, coupled w/a very slender, skinny body ala Copper John style nymph.
It should help. Good luck. If it were simple it wouldn’t be much fun would it.
The other thing to try is casting above the pool, so that when the current falls into the plunge pool, your fly is taken down too. This works best with upstream mends before the drop also.
Rex
Thank you all for your input… I’v tyed up some copper johns and have all you guys input rolling around in my head,if all goes well, these copper Johns are gonna go swimming this Thursday…
