When talking about ski areas that have a good bit of ice(usually Eastern ski areas), the quote they use to ‘defend’ themselves:
“It ain’t ice if there aren’t fish under it”.
Thought that kinda funny and pertenent for here too.
BTW if you ski icy areas and haven’t tried Dynastar(63, 64 or 66s) then you don’t know what you’re missing 
. Ice? What ice. Set and edge an carve thru it.
Hey BBW,
I work part-time at a ski area on the Safety Patrol. Please be advised it’s “properly” referred to as “Frozen Granular” :lol: We NEVER say “ice”…
BTW, I tried the Dynastars you mentioned, but a bit too stiff for my taste. I went with Nordica Nitrous Hot Rods. We have to ski in all kinds of conditions, and have yet to lose an edge with these skis - they’re awesome.
If I might ask, how much do you weigh?
equals 192
Even though that isn’t “light” I could see where they might feel a bit stiff. YOu need to carry a lot of speed to make the skis work. I weigh like 220 and am amazed at how these skis work(considering most skis are made for someone that weighs about 160) but they need speed. I have never yet found the limit of them in leaning them over. It’s kinda scary actually.
It’s no wonder they found a way to “outlaw” them.
The FIM ski racing waist measure limit used to be 63mm, then it was 64 and now it is 66. Hence the name of the ski.
I skiied them last year in a driving, very light powder snow of about 8-10 inches and believe it or not they still “floated” well. Obviously it isn’t a powder ski but it really did well. I wouldn’t use it in deep powder out west(not a chance) but it would do well in some powder.
I’m guessing my weight is the main reason I like the ski. It doesn’t get flexed out like other skis.
“I have never yet found the limit of them in leaning them over. It’s kinda scary actually.”…
Same thing as what I found, BBW. First I tried some Rossy Bandits. Nice, but a little too soft. Then Dynastar Outlaws and Saloman X Wings - both were just a little too stiff. The tails would slip out unless I was really rippin’ & edgin’. When I put on the Hot Rods and skated five steps to the lift line I remember saying “WOW - these are the ones!”. These skis are so good that I’ve now caused trouble with my knees because of how much angulation I can put on those skis and they hold like a rock. I’m 58 now, and the knees are giving out. Had the right one done three weeks ago, and the left will be in Mid-April, and more complicated (I’m left-handed)…
Where do you ski??
“Home” ski area is Wisp Resort in Western Md.
I live in West Tn now and have no ski areas near.
Headed to Steamboat in 2 weeks.
I have used the X-Wing Tornado and it did well. It is slightly soft for me. But it makes a good carving ski out west. I liked the K2 Apache I used out west. First K2 I have ever liked. They always feel kinda “dead” to me. I like lively wood-core skis.
ooo oooo I just love a new hobby with its own jargon…and 220 is light…ooo ooo I’m really lovin’ it. My waist is way(weigh) bigger than that 66. 
Hey you ain’t alone. I resemble that remark too! L.o.L.!
What I want to know is how you guys got those long, wimpy skis to work on your snowmobile? I mean how do you retrofit them to this:
http://www.polarisindustries.com/en-US/Snowmobiles/Pages/Home.aspx
New ski terminology:
Skis now are measured ~5 ways.
Length, like always.
Tip width
Waist(middle of ski) width
Tail width
All of the above gives you a turn radius.
The 63s I have, have a very short 11m turn radius. Most skis have about a 17-20m turn radius. YOu can vary the measurements(by changing skis) to get the kind of turn you want in whatever conditions you find yourself in.
Eastern skis generally have a shorter turn radius than western skis and are shorter in length. Fatter skis generally float in powder snow conditions better than narrow ones.
Skiers come in all shapes and sizes