In March, we paid about 1.80 NZD per liter (roughly $7/gallon NZD, or a touch over $5 USD per gallon at the time). Here we were paying much less, though our regular unleaded here is 87 octane [(R+M)/2 method] versus NZ regular unleaded, which is rated at 91 octane but not sure how they arrive at that rating.
Gringo, do you know if Australia/NZ have their own oil refineries?
Marty
Pretty much $3.99 at the pumps in the Island Nation of Ohio. I’m just thankful I don’t live in Arnold Land (Kalifornia) or one of the Left Coast States. Same for the Right Coast States. Seems both coasts always have extreme pricing and extreme politics. There’s something to be said for living in the middle of the US of A.
As far as biofuels, I planted 10 rows of corn in the garden, and the Federal Govenment has offered me $380/bu for my harvest so they can make “cheap” biofuel. They actually outbid my local grocer by $8/bu, not including the subsidies for planting corn and not planting some other crops. Sure glad the Feds are looking out for our backs with alternative fuels. Makes me all warm and fuzzy having lawyers in charge of economic decisions.:roll:
Thank you st. Paul, appreciate it. 
I paid 3.95 this morning. In central Pennsylvania. On the east coast. A Mid Atlantic State. Now, what were you saying, dear Joe?;)
Costco in Salem, OR this AM = $4.05
Diesel in Jordan Valley, OR last week = $4.99
The topography and demography of different countries is not the same. The demand for crude oil is the driving force for the cost of fuel. Not enough crude on the international market, drives the price up. In many countries throughout the world, the demography/topography allows for mass transit, and short commutes, and somewhat aleviates the high price of fuel. In the US, it works in some high density areas, but in areas where commutes and distances are long, $10/gallon fuel is not practical, and is cost prohibitive. The curve for producing vehicles that will economically meet the demands of these conditions is years (perhaps decades) away. Opening up our resources to drilling and pumping existing assets is our only recourse for keeping this country running. Status Quo will bankrupt us. We can all do better to conserve, and as more efficient vehicles become available, and affordable, it will take the pressure off the oil market, and supply and demand will allow for the price, and dependancy to drop. The only other options will be a drastic decline in the standard of living, or going to war with our neighbors over the existing fuel supplies. It’s not possible to discuss the pain of fuel prices, without discussing the politics that put us into this situation. Politicians put us here, and they should be held accountable for their inaction to get us out. Our neighbors are drilling on our doorstep. We should be allowed to conscientiously do the same.
I promise not to read relpies that deviate away from the original question…on this thread only…people are blowing smoke:rolleyes:
Oh heck, I thought it would probably go this way. I know there are a lot of variables, I know my math is suspect, I know the difference in gallons across continents etc, I just thought it would be interesting. I see not how world war three is going to start.
Anyway we learnt that the US is about $4-5 . Aus and NZ around $7 and UK around $11.
I find this really interesting. How about the rest of the world here? I know we have guys from Europe, the Baltics, um… Canada I think (:roll:) and South America and Ohio. How about you guys?
Gringo, do you know if Australia/NZ have their own oil refineries?
Not refineries as far as I know. Lots of offshore rigs and we produce our own gas but not liquid. Could easy be wrong there though.
You asked the questions. I’m just trying to answer in my own limited way. I’ll admit that I don’t have the whole picture, and that my take on things may be flawed, but isn’t the reason that you’re seeing the conflicts around the world a result of conditions that can’t be controlled by “Joe Ordinary”? These conditions didn’t just happen. They were caused.
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Thanks Ducky; and Lew, and everybody else.
I don’t want to try to solve anything or find out who is to blame.
Just interested coz it is going up everywhere like crazy and I know I pay what is a lot to me, but less than some others; and some pay way more than me; so what are the rough ball parks?
Already I’m glad I’m not in England.
Lew - can I clarify something?
but isn’t the reason that you’re seeing the conflicts around the world a result of conditions that can’t be controlled by “Joe Ordinary”?
When I said “conflicts” please be sure I was not referring to any current global military actions or occupations or anything like that.
I am referring to strikes and road blockades by truckers in England; Paris; in other parts of Europe; Taiwan, and many other parts of Asia too I think. All this is about fuel prices, nothing else. Perhaps I should have been clearer there.
Thanks guys.
OK here is the best I can do in a hurry while the kids are at the movies.
No argument will be entered in to!!!
Countries selected were those with readily accessible figures.
The prices are the latest available today on the net for ordinary unleaded.
The dollar conversions are rounded to 1/100 accuracy and the liter:US gallon is calculated at 1:3.8.
If you do not like my figures, this was just for fun anyway and not to try to start WW3.
All figures are per US gallon in US dollars as of today, and yes, I believe Turkmenistan is correct.
Australia 5.70
Austria 7.60
Belgium 9.34
Estonia 6.57
Finland 8.74
France 8.74
Germany 8.74
Greece 7.03
Hungary 7.33
India 4.93
Indonesia 2.40
Italy 8.17
Latvia 6.72
Malaysia 3.15
Netherlands 9.34
New Zealand 3 bananas :mrgreen:
North Ireland 8.28
Norway 9.57
Poland 7.94
Portugal 8.17
Russia 4.56
Slovakia 7.75
Spain 7.03
Sweden 8.55
Switzerland 7.06
Turkmenestan 0.76 
USA 3.80 :oops:and no arguments guys.
Hope you find this interesting guys, I certainly did. I was surprised at how little variation there is in some quarters, and how much in others. Obviously I guess that many Turkmenistanians would not have 76 cents but we are not here to look at subsidies, cultural and sociological differences, just fuel prices.
Thanks, makes a very interesting thread.
I am but your humble servant.
(About to emmigrate to Turkmenistan when I can find it on the map.)
You should include…
Iraq
Arabia
Venezuela.
Kuwait
etc.
What does Iraq pay and who pays the price?
I take it you did not live in Goleta in 1969?
heres a video called the “EnergY Non-Crisis” by Lindsey Williams
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147
note: it is 1 hour and 15 minutes long but very interesting
Form your own opinion!
The $0.76 price per in Turkmenistan and " suspect many Turkmenistans don’t have $0.76, illustrates a good point. The price of fuel is to some degree RELATIVE to the local average means/income etc. Venezuela comes to mind ,however, where the price ( around $0.30) is directly due to “we make it here” and not so much relative to the local economy.
I’ve often wondered why milk in Wisconsin, Americas Dairyland, costs $4.00 per gallon retail and MY local grocer has it priced at $2.89. Go figger !!!
Mark
PS: My local Costco has Reg. Unl, at $4.07 but with my Costco Amex Business card I get a 5% rebate on ALL gas purchases ( from ANY source). The card costs $100 but I get back a WHOLE lot more than THAT.