…16/0 in 12 color selections and more…
From Denmark:
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Looks like great stuff, but what really interests me is the Stomach Thread. Any idea what that’s for?
Regards,
Scott
So what do you think the odds are that your local fly shop will start getting this product in their store so you can buy it ??
Howabout some details? How much per spool? Braided or Flat? Waxed or unwaxed? Domestic source?
There are a ton of decent small threads out there now, from Benecchi to Griffith to MFC. Veevus would have to be something special to make it worth hunting down.
This is a relatively new product so all the information requested/ desired is not available at this moment. I believe that this information will be forthcoming over the next few months from tiers across the pond…Will it be available in your local shop? Probably not, but then, my local shop -Bob Marriott’s, here in LA wasn’t carrying Tiemco 16/0 until I had them order some for me and they carry Gordon Griffith and Benecchi as well.The stomach thread ? Got me, but I will find out…
A number of excellent tiers in Europe are currently using this product and have indicated so on some of the tying communities I belong to on FB…here is one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLSHMq9x-5Y&context=C39481c1ADOEgsToPDskLMnUITRkp0V8KyXBEcVxBX
I will report further when I have threaded it through my bobbin and completed a couple of dozen ties…a long time ago, I learned not to practice “contempt prior to investigation”…so I be investigating…
Here are some comparative breaking strengths recently posted on the Veevus site on FB:
[b]uni 6/0 = around 930g
veevus 6/0 = above 1kg
uni 8/0 = around 450g
veevus 8/0 = above 1kg
benecchi 10/0 = around 650g
veevus 10/0 = around 800g
benecchi 12/0 = around 450g
veevus 12/0 = around 530g
veevus 14/0 = around 520g
veevus 16/0 = around 430g[/b]
This was straight pull strength…
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Scott,
Directly form the source:
PHOTO BY: Finn Jensen
“The main function of it, is to help you build up a nice body, fast. However, the stomach thread has a few other functions that will make your work a lot easier. We hope to have some videos ready within a few weeks where we will show - What it can be used for, and How.”
Here is another vid. with the product in 10/0 being used…and that “HOT SPOT”…it is Datum “Glo-Brite” floss which is now being distributed in the US by Hareline…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipV9gbCFjdk
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PHOTO BY: FINN JENSEN
VEEVUS 10/0 Thread Colors…
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This just in…about half an hour ago…:lol:
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Threads are like hooks. Each manufacturer seems to have it’s own system for labeling. I like the Denier system rather than the “/0 Aught” system because that is consistent with thread mass. One manufacturer’s 8/O is another manufacturer’s 11/0. Same diameter but the 11/0 makes you think it is thinner and has less mass.
One company that plays this game in tippet labeling is Varivas. A 9X tippet should be .002" diameter and a 11X tippet is nonexistent since X size is defined as .011 " - X size/1000 = tippet diameter. Why then does Varivas have a 11X and 12X tippet and their other tippets are thicker than the definition?
A tying thread company that plays the same game is Bennichi. Note that their 12/0 is about 70 denier as is Uni 8/0 and Gudebrod 8/0, all are polyester and have about the same breaking strength 15 oz. There is no free lunch in threads when identical materials are used. Denier determines strength and diameter regardless of what the “Aught” diameter labelling says
This stuff has gotten some very good reviews from what I’ve read. Can’t wait to give it a try in the smaller size’s. PT , give us an update on your thoughts after you tie a few dozen.
texfly,
My understanding is that Hareline will be distributing the 6/0 - 14/0 Veevus. I have had some conversations with a number of tiers in Europe and a few in the former Czech. Republic who have been using this thread. To a person, they all like it. I was hoping they would also carry the 16/0 but that may come if there is enough demand for it. I’ll be putting in an order for the 14/0 through Bob Marriott’s, here in LA, next week. When I first got them to order the Tiemco 16/0 through Umpqua, they were a bit skeptical…now, they can’t keep it in stock. I notice it is not included on the list that Silver Creek provided. All I can say is that it it much stronger than the Lagartun 74 Denier which I also like and use…
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Silver Creek…
The same argument can be made against Denier (Denier is based on ‘mass’ per fixed length of the material). Denier has nothing to do with strength, or diameter of the material. It is density based. Examination of the table you present, and based on only two different denier values, bear this out (D45 and D70) as presented here:
Brand Denier Material Tensile Strength [u] Dia. (.000)[inch][sic]
Uni Caenis[/u] 45 Poly 9 oz. 1.0
Euro 45 Poly 15 oz. 1.3
(NOTE: Difference intensile strength is 6 oz; a 60% difference; and there is a 33% difference in diameter.)
Benecchi 12/0 70 Poly 15 oz. 1.9
Danville 6/0 70 Poly 11 oz. 1.5
Wapsi UTC70 70 Poly 13 oz. 1.1
(There is a variation of approx. 30% in the Tensile Strength between the strongest and weakest of three threads, and a variation of over 40% in their diameters.)
Based on these numbers, and variations, I fail to see where Denier is a major improvement on the old ‘ought’ system.
Regards!
Frank
This is a review of the Veevus threads done by my friend Marc Fauvet, who lives in Sweden and is a casting instructor in Europe…for those who visit Sexyloops, his name might be familiar:
http://thelimpcobra.com/2012/05/17/review-veevus-tying-threads-and-tying-materials/
My shop here in LA, Bob Marriott’s, is now carrying it and it is listed in the new FC catalog…
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Saw that in the fall catalogue I got the other day. Also see they have some of the Spirit River UV stuff, although not the peacock eyes, yet
Regards,
Scott