F.E.B. Hopper

For whatever reason, the outside of the casement windows in my workout room in the basement are much favored by the hoppers that dwell in this neighborhood. While working out today, I noticed hoppers for the first time this year. They may not be the first hoppers in the immediate area, since I have been away from home for the best of ten days, but they are the first I have seen, and a reminder to start thinking hoppers.

Went back to the tying desk with JC’s Salmonfly and LF’s Golden Stone in mind. A few simple adjustments and I had a furled extended body hopper.

I fished a somewhat similar experimental f.e.b. hopper last summer one time and got a lot of looks ( aka refusals ) by the fishies. I think this fly is much improved over that one in several regards, starting with the overall silhouette, the legs, and the blended colors. Hopefully when a fishy sees it from the fish’s point of view, he’ll think food instead of fake.

John

What is the body material? I tie a clod hopper pattern that is very similar. But for durability I sub poly yarn for deer hair.

While you were working out? I was at the mall today and saw a hopper on the sidewalk outside. Same as working out.

Steve -

The furled extended body is two strands of yellow antron yarn mixed with two strands of brown olive antron. The tag ends of the furled strands are carried forward for some addition body bulk and color, although not as evident in this smaller fly ( size 12 standard dry fly hook ) as in the larger stoneflies ( size 8 3X long salmonfly and size 8 1X long golden stone ).

The salmonfly and golden stone this is patterned after were very successful in a number of places this summer, partly, I think, because the furled extended antron body has some movement that is not so easily achieved with other materials.

John

Nice hopper John! Big Elk is on its way and this bug should do the trick. great work!!
Mgliss

Hey, John!
Do you think that a 14 wt will be big enough to toss one of these?

They were all over the place down by the Neches River. This one was about 3" long.

Kirk

Mike -

Thanks.

Had Big Elk in mind when tying the hopper. Went up there yesterday afternoon - for a hike. It is clear, but still high and fast. Very few hoppers to be seen, and fewer fish. In fact, no fish at all.

The creek looks like it is still a couple weeks away. Might get some action with heavily weighted nymphs, but that isn’t my idea of fishing Big Elk. I’d rather be patient and time it right.

John

Don’t think I have a hook big enough to tie one of those, let alone a rod big enough to cast one !!

John

John,

I’ve got some Alec Jackson 1.5 spey hooks that might work for a hopper that big if ya need 'em. Hmm, light wire spey hooks for hoppers. On second thought, maybe I’d better hang on to those hooks.

Nice looking fly. The legs remind me of some of Hans Weilenmann’s flies tied from net grocery bags. Nice effect.

REE

That looks awesome, Here in Ketchican, AK i used a hopper on this remote creek. There were no hoppers even out, but did very well! Lookin splended, good luck on the first try. :razz:

The original F.E.B. Hopper was tied with available materials on my tying desk. I was developing the concept and tying sequence and was pleased with the result, but not with the aesthetics of the original.

Picked up some materials which seemed more suitable for tying a fly more resembling the hoppers on the streams I fish. Also tied a CDC variation, using CDC in place of the deer hair for the wing. ( The new version has replaced the original in the first post on this thread. )

Fished both the deer hair and the CDC versions of the hopper on Birch Creek today. The hopper took a hit almost immediately on hitting the water, and moments later hooked up with a nice little bow. Didn’t get a picture of that fish, but did get one of the brookie which was next in line just a couple minutes later.

Birch Creek was fishing good today. Fished the deer hair version for about an hour and caught somewhere around fifteen fishies with it. Fished the CDC version about the same length of time with similar results.

All in all, a very successful first day on the water for this new fly. Won’t be the last day, for sure.

John

Well, I’ve had the chance to test this fly twice on Birch Creek, on Rock Creek, on the Big Hole, on Fish Creek, and twice on the Lochsa.

Along the way, it has caught brook, rainbow, cutthroat, and finally, today, brown trout.

The run down : Birch Creek - bows and brookies. Rock Creek - bows, cutts, and browns. The Big Hole - brookies and cutts. Fish Creek - bows and cutts. The Lochsa - bows and cutts.

The fly has produced in everything from near slack water on the edges on small streams, to fast rough water at midstream on the Lochsa. To date, I’ve fished it tied on standard dry fly hooks size 12 and 10. More fishies on the 12, but that one has been fished more.

It is an EFFECTIVE pattern. It is relatively SIMPLE to tie. It is DURABLE. Those are my major criteria for any pattern I tie and fish. This one gets a thumbs up, for sure.

John

P.S. I’ll be fishing for bows and brookies in a stream down in Idaho that holds bull trout, also, in the next week or two. Wouldn’t be at all surprised if a bull trout tries to eat the hopper.

Update - took a Lolo Creek Triple today with the hopper. First fish was a 14" brown, the rest were smaller bows except for one smaller cutt.

i think that fly would be very good on my home waters. What is the recipe?

Hmmmmmm … tell you what. When I get home early next week and have a chance to do it right, I’ll post the recipe and some tying instructions with some pics.

John

P.S. It would help if you would send me a PM reminder, in case I don’t get back to this thread right away. Thanks.

Great tie! Let us know how it works.

There were a number of pics taken during the tying sequence, so I am showing them as a slideshow to get this all in one post. Click on the pic to start the slideshow.

FEB ( furled extended body ) Hopper - John Scott, Rigby ID

Materials :
Standard dry fly hook
Antron yarn
Rubber legs
Closed cell foam
Deer ( or elk ) hair

Tying sequence :

Wrap a thread base to bend of hook and back to point just above barb.

Furl strands of antron yarn. For the size 12, I use two strands. For the size 10, three strands. For larger hoppers, you might want to go up to four strands. ( The more strands of yarn you use, the harder it is to get a tight furl. Think ?less is more.? ) Mix and match the colors of antron yarn to get the effect you want. Electrician?s clips make great furling tools. Twist the electrician?s clips in opposite directions five or six turns. When the antron wants to furl, hold both clips in one hand and pull on the center of the twisted antron releasing the tension on it at the same time.

Remove the f.e.b. from the clips and twist in the direction it furled. Tie in the furled antron extended body at the point just over the barb. Make the f.e.b. as long or short as appropriate for the size hopper you are tying. I like to take several wraps over the f.e.b. forward of the tie in point, then a couple wraps in front of the f.e.b. and then a few more back toward the tie in point to make sure it is secured to the shank.

Tie in the rear legs. I like to loop the legging material around the tying thread then wrap the thread over the top of the hook shank. When the legs are in place on top of the shank take a couple more wraps to secure them. Then spread them down and to the sides and wrap toward the back of the hook to place and flare them. Trim to desired length. I go about two times the f.e.b. length.

Cut a foam strip wide enough for the size hopper you are tying and long enough to easily handle it during the tying sequence. Trim the tie in end to a shallow ?V?. Tie in the foam strip.

Wrap the tying thread forward ahead of the tie in point for the middle legs. I like to build up the body with a number of layers of tying thread before tying in the middle legs. Use the same method for the middle legs as for the rear legs. Trim to desired length. I make the middle legs about two thirds as long as the rear legs.

Wrap the tying thread forward to a couple hook eye widths behind the eye of the hook. Pull the tag ends of the furled antron strands forward and tie down. Trim the excess antron material.

Tie in the front legs using the same method described above, but pulling them forward out beyond the eye of the hook. Trim them to length, about one third the length of the rear legs.

Wrap the tying thread back to about midway between the middle and front legs. This will pretty well ensure that you do not crowd the eye of the hook during the remaining steps. Bring the foam strip forward and tie it securely. I like to use the technique of a number of wraps over the foam, then a couple in front of it, then a few more over it and then a couple more in front of it, and finally a couple more at the tie in point.

Cut, comb out, stack and trim a bundle of deer or elk hair for the wing. The wing should extend beyond the bend of the hook. It should flare some when you tie it in. Tie it in at the tie in point for the foam strip. Wrap through the ends of the hair a good number of times to ensure it stays in place. I like to apply a healthy amount of fly tying cement to the place where the deer hair is tied in.

Form a bullet head with the foam strip, pull it back over the hair tie in point, and tie it down. Again, I like to use the technique of several wraps over the foam, a couple wraps in front of it ( being careful to not alter the tie in of the front legs ), a few more over the foam then a couple more in front of it and a couple on top of it before completing the tie in with a whip finish.

After whip finishing, trim the tag end of the foam to desired length and shape. Apply a liberal amount of head cement to the final tie in point, both on top and underneath the hopper.

John

John, I just printed off your instructions, Thanks! I’m with you when it comes to simplicity and this is one simple fly. Looking forward to tying some and giving them a good workout.

Kelly.

John,

Great photos and instructions. That is one neat fly; no wonder all those fish on your latest road trip were all over it. I’m really looking forward to fishing with them.

Regards,
Scott

Thanks for posting the hopper tying sequence. I’m going to tie some uo for my trip to your neck of the country. Were you able to get the itinerary yet?

Hi John,

Great slideshow! This really deserves to be a fly of the week, and I hope you consider submitting it.

  • Jeff