On the new website provided by JC the magazine has an article on distance casting.
http://issues.flyfishinglifemag.com/....php?mid=dfrdr
The casters were set up in two groups based on how far they were able to cast…7 weight rod
The "Elite"group…average distance… 80 feet
The “Good” group…70.7 feet
These were world class casters.
My question…why were none of them able to cast the whole line?
Many folks brag about casting a whole fly line…are they blowing smoke?
JC must be in the Super(man) Elite group! I’ve watched him cast it all!
duckster,
Maybe some lines are just longer than others?
Deezel
Very, interesting point, HRH Betty!?!
I watched Lee Wulff, at a show in 1971, cast an entire 90’ 5wt. line and he didn’t bother using a fly rod, to do it. Joan Wulff, holds the distance, still I believe, at 320’ of fly line, in one cast!?!.
I’ve thrown, a 90’ 5 & 6 wt, using a rod (unlike Lee!), trailed by a few feet of backing, indoors no wind assist. But, I still don’t see any point in doing it, regardless. I hate competition of any form in fly fishing and I couldn’t see my fly past 60 feet, anyway!?! What’s the point?
on a nice calm day I can cast all but about 6 feet of my line on my 7 wt. I can’t catch a fish to save my @##, but I can cast.
Indoors, distance contests, 5wt 9ft rods, normal WF lines and 9ft leaders, winning total distance (toes of caster to the FLY) approx 112 to 118 feet. Often 85 feet of line carried in the air. This will have the whole line out the tip top and some backing.
really??? 320 feet of fly line???
Good Question guy’s. Thanks for reading the story.
The control on this study was that each caster began false casting 50’ of line. Then they were to cast as much line out as they could on the final forward cast. Most of the casters in this study can cast over 100 feet of line without this constraint. To achieve the distances mentioned above, you would normally shoot line out on the back cast as well as the final forward cast.
“The casters in the study had to pick up and control approximately 50 feet of fly line in the air, make two false casts, and release line on the third forward cast.”
Is that the difference???
BTW the casters included Rene Gillibert and Tim Rajeff.
a guy in NY, Randy Kadish, has written some on this subject. & his novel, “the Fly Caster Who Tried To Make Peace in the World” has some basis in that subject area.
I think he’d be the first to say… it doesn’t catch fish.
but it is quite a skill to have, in my opinion.
Later,
An Oregonian
Yep and I’ll try and find the actual article to make sure I have the distance correct too.
In the meantime, from the FAOL archives…
(quote)-[SIZE=3][SIZE=4][COLOR=#663300][SIZE=3][COLOR=#663300][SIZE=4][COLOR=#663300][SIZE=3][COLOR=#663300][SIZE=4][COLOR=#663300]THE LONGEST CAST: Steve Rajeff cast 248 feet at the world casting championship in Pretoria, South Africa. His longest cast at an ACA National was 236 feet!(end quote)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE]
the casting in the article was with a rod that provided some contrast to the background so videos could be taken? (i thought) it was mentioned that it was a bit on the soft side—everyone cast the same rod
“Mel Krieger donated one he had used in his excellent video, The Essence of Fly Casting.” This 9 foot graphite rod , designed for Fenwick by Jim Green, was matched with a Scientific Anglers/3M Ultra2, weight-forward 7-weight floating fly line."
So is the equipment the reason??? How can that be when a whole line can be cast without a rod???
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Most people who fish salt like to be able to cast out 100 feet or so with an 8 wt. if pushed. The reason is a snook or a red laying up against the mangroves will see the poler on the poling deck if you get closer and they will spook. I have neck problems and I hit 80 feet pretty well but 100 feet is pushing it for me. In England, where all the casts are long, people talk of 110-115 feet being sort of routine.
Now, real long distance casters are a breed apart. It takes skill, strength, and practice. And there are techniques like double hauling, and timed wrist rotation, and body movement, and special lines, that are just not a part of everyday fishing.
Long distance casting isn’t discussed a lot on this site - probably because most of us don’t need it for smaller streams. But it is discussed ad nausium on many European sites. Sexyloops.com comes to mind as one of them.
Godspeed,
Bob Bolton
From the Wulff Casting School website:
Joan has cast a fly an incredible 161 feet! Over a period of sixteen years, she has won an international and 17 national championships. Additionally, she continues to be the recipient of numerous awards relating to her efforts in both the fishing industry and conservation.
I think this is a great post:!:
It seems the numbers in this thread don’t jibe.
And, as I said, earlier…“Joan Wulff, holds the distance, still I believe, at 320’ of fly line, in one cast!?!.” then…" Yep and I’ll try and find the actual article to make sure I have the distance correct too."
Which, I frustratingly cannot find in my “hoard” of magazines in 3 corners of my room! So, I’ll very gladly, retract the posted comment! Sorry!
But, I sure won’t sneeze at her record of 161’ either!
There’s a great, short, vid on Joan and her history of casting on this link, if anyone’s interested in several of the casting feats, she’s accomplished. (such as, “casting two fly lines at the same time”, etc)
http://www.midcurrent.com/video/clips/wulff_dynamics_intro.aspx
heres some records
…and to think I do cartwheels when I hit 50 ft :shock: