Let me step up on my soap box for just one minute. The use of fish pellet flies, corn flies, bread flies and etc. (IMO) greatly diminishes the SPORT of fly fishing. I would rather catch one fish honestly than 2 dozen fish on such flies. I feel the same way about chumming!
If you really want to catch carp, buy a bait rod, make some dough balls from corn meal and jello (they love strawberry) and you’ll catch plenty of carp.
I made NO wise cracks…I simply Fly fish for them…as anyone would when fishing for trout…They feed very much the same way…You just need to use a bit more finesse while fishing for Carp.
As they tend to be a bit more aware of what’s going on around them, They know you are there before you shut off your car in the parking lot!!!
“I’ve often wondered why it is that so many anglers spend so much money on,and pay so much attention to.the details on the wrong end of the fly line.If they took as much care in selecting or tying their flies as they did in the selection of the reel and rod,They might be able to gain the real extra edge that makes it possible to fool a fish that has,in fact,seen it all before” A.K.Best
Everyone wants to excel in this sport but at the same time we let traditionalists place restrictions on our tactics, methods, and ideas. I always assumed that fly fishing was a sport that allowed imagination, creation, adaptation, investigation, dedication, education, revelation? : Fox Statler, On Spinners (Not the dainty Dry Fly kind) “Spinner’d Minner Fly”
“Wish ya great fishing”
Bill
Those packs of cheese ball baits are quite good as well for bait fishing equipment…I was not always a fly flinger either!!!
Awesome for sucker fishing as well…
Irondragon, the original poster was obviously chumming for other than carp. You bit!
Pete,
Don’t know the original poster but IMHO, it’s a legitimate question to which I do not have an answer. However, many prominent fly fishers of years gone by often ‘chummed’ the waters (and I’m talking about celebrated waters) immediately before fly fishing.
Allan
I tried chumming for carp once. I stopped by the grocery store near the pond where the carps live. Bought two cans of corn and tied two little yellow fuzzy flies.
The gawdz of fly fishing were teaching me a lesson because I didn’t really read the can and when I got to the pond; I was left to try to chum with creamed corn…
There is a fine line between fly fishing and standing in a river waving a stick, and YOU SIR have crossed that line!
Hi Folks,
That fly fishing is the common thread
that unites this group is enough for me.G
I don’t care if you fish strictly for trout
or whether you cast up stream or down. If
you have found a niche in your fishery that
gives you pleasure with the long rod, you
are obviously doing something right. All I
got to say is, keep on keeping on. Life is
to short to waste on the petty stuff.G
Warm regards, Jim
we all draw our own lines and I for wouldn’t chum for carp or any fish…nor would I use scented flies or any other bait. I catch a lot of carp on the fly and there is no need to chum for them…when carp are feeding they take a properly presented nymph or crayfish pattern very well. carp are not easy to catch with a fly…unlike trout they are not really predators and can eat just about anything they like. they do move to flies but less often than even the wariest of trout. and unlike steelhead carp don’t strike out of aggression. I suppose you could use chum to get fish in a feeding mood but you can accomplish the same thing by doing more walking and looking.
Very well stated John !!!
I’m not so well inclined with the written or even the spoken word as most…But you hit it dead on…IMO anyway…
I agree with many of the statements made in this thread…
Also Allan,
I’m sure a lot of what the old timers did was not as most would do in this day and age…If you watch the video of Joe Humphreys… A Casting Approach To Dry Fly Fishing In Tight Brush…there is a segment with George Harvey at the end…and some of the things he did…(And some still do today),
Were not very law biding…or even ethically balanced. I for one am not that well versed on what Fly fishers did historically…But I’m sure they did not always take the long way to get food on the table…we take for granted today what was not available in abundance to the older generation’s…
Use corn or bread for carp to get them in the area then cast whatever fly your going use at the feeding fish…then hold on. Carp on the fly can be great fun.
As for the rest of the jokers here that dont aprove of your methods, tell them to go pound sand…they are the reason everyone thinks flyfisherman are snobs. If your having fun and its legal…knock your self out and have a blast. Dont worry about what anyone else thinks.
Ain’t it interesting how the fit of the knickers seems to enhance, or alliviate, the “bind” of the knickers. 
…lee s.
I don’t do it but chumming is legal in Pa. To each his, or her, own.
Eric “nighthawk”
" All gave some, some gave all. Some stood through for the red, white and blue and some had to fall. If you ever think of me, think of all your liberties and recall, Some gave all". Thanks to Billy Ray Cyrus and all our fallen soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines.
American veteran and proud of it!
I remember as a 11 or 12 y.o. boy going hiking with my brother and one of our relatives who was in his mid to late 40’s. As was not unusual at that time, a 22 rifle was taken along. As we were into the hike by about 15 minutes, this knucklehead relative saw a chipmunk and shot it. He shot at everyone we came across. I’m pro hunting, but this my brother and I thought was just plain stupid. He seemed to be having a grand old time shooting chipmunks!
So my question is this: Should I have accepted his behavior because he was HAVING FUN?
If being a snob is prefering to fish waters without trash and litter as oposed to those filled with styrofoam worm containers and beer bottles and catching fish without the somewhat dubious tatics of chumming and corn flys, I’ll glady accept my label as snob.
Scott aka snob
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“So my question is this: Should I have accepted his behavior because he was HAVING FUN?”
Chipmunks are a protected species in most areas so shooting them is illegal. So NO you should not have accepted his behavior. Had he been shooting a legal game species within the specified season then YES, nothing wrong with what he was doing.
And right there is the point, if it is legal in Devil’s area then he should knock himself out and chum it up. Who are we to condem him for his actions. I dont recall him asking for an ethical debate on the issue, he was looking for advice on what to use. If you dont have anything constructive to add to help him them dont say anything at all.
Several points:
this action of shooting chipmunks occured some 40 plus years ago. Was it legal at that time…don’t know…probably.
legal or not, do you honestly consider this good sportsmanship?
Lets take it one step further. If a person hunting deer had the means to chain it to a tree and could take all the time and get as close as he wanted and then shoot it…what a sad afair that would be. On the other hand, a guy bags a deer honestly, no chains, just himself and the deer in the wild, able to run and alude.
I did offer advice in my first post from my early days of carp fishing (cornmeal and jello)
There is much more to fly fishing than JUST catching fish and if I had to explain it to you…well, than you probably would never understand.
snob
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Hi Teastick,
Quote: If being a snob is prefering to fish waters without trash and litter as oposed to those filled with styrofoam worm containers and beer bottles and catching fish without the somewhat dubious tatics of chumming and corn flys, I’ll glady accept my label as snob.
Good for you Teastick, and well deserved
if I do say so.G Warm regards, Jim
Teastick, you’re so “right on” it’s pathetic. Welcome to you, another sensible voice here on FAOL. The “open minded” will hate you but ,trust me on this one, that’ll be fun.
Mark
I’d rather be in Wyoming!
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Can’t chum in Idaho either. 
I see sport fishing what it is: sport.
It’s not a sport if you’re baiting over an open field…so to speak.
We tend to catch and release far more than we catch and filet…and it all depends on where we are, if it’s stocked, the size of fish, etc. I think our personal laws are much stricter than state…but that’s just us. <BG>