Has anyone tried typical bonefish flies for carp? IE Gothas or crazy charlies?
Never tried 'em. My general rule for carp fishing is to throw immitative flies.
I have too, but your traditional nymph patterns tend to snag when stripped across the flats. I thought a fly with the hook riding up, like bonefish flies with beadchain eyes, would hang up far less often. I’ve just found the crazy carper, a fly that is based on a crazy charlie, but modified for carp.
If there is a rule against tying nymphs with a hook that rides point-up, I haven’t heard it, and I ain’t listenin!
here is another concept on the hook-up patterns…i adapted it to some wooly buggers and works like a charm.
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I have been playing with getting some flies to sink hook up, but flip over when stripped after reading one of the lake articles on here earlier this year.
To do this I have tied a strip of weight (lead in my case) along the top of the hook at the beginning of the tie. I have mostly done this with some Wooly Buggers that have a good amount of flash in the tail, and I have been surprised at the amount of flash produced at the beginning of each stripping motion, and at the end when I pause for a moment. The fly flips at each moment and that twist allows the flash material to catch the sunlight and apparently the basses eyes.
I don’t know if that would work as well with Carp, but maybe something similar and more subtle. At the least it ads more movement to the fly.
Don
Fishing a NW lake a couple years back I kept having problems with my Wooley Worms getting snagged on the many fist sized and larger basalt rocks just as a Carp approached. The cure was to tie some Wooley Worms with a deer hear weed guard, bendback style. The fish love them and they work great. Best color is still the ddark olive or peacock Estaz body with a grizzly hackle palmered, a red tag and a gold wire rib. I use a bit of wrapped led around the shank for deeper waters (2-3 ft deep) and no weight for the shallows,
Good Fishing
Chuck Scheerschmidt
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Yup olive bonefish bitters works good, tan gotchas/charlies work good, in theory but without most of the flash. The mini puff with bead chain looks delicious but haven’t tried it yet.
Stay in warmwater natural colors and away from the bright pinks and golds for the most part. Watch out for flash, take it out of the pattern or minimize it. The Squimp is another good one. Al Campbell’s Shrimpf which you can find on this site is excellent in tan. It doesn’t have too much flash. Olive, tan, rust.
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Dave, can you please give me the recipe for your “sucker punch”?
heh,
I was getting ready to post the Sucker Punch recipe but Dave is already on it! 
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Can someone post the sucker punch?
Sorry, I don’t get back here every day. Here is the pic/recipe:
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Here’s a good fly and the one I a lot looks like this but tied with dark olive estaz, or dark peacock and wound with a dark grizzly hackle.
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Good Fishing
Chuck Scheerschmidt
“I’ve traveled a long way and some of the roads weren’t paved.”
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