Black Caddis Pattern...HELP!

Last year (it was in June I believe) I was fishing a local river when I noticed that the fish were taking something just below the surface. I tried a few favourite patterns, but they didn’t produce much.

At one point, I moved into shallower water, and that’s when I noticed that my legs were covered in hundreds of little dark caddis flies. Although I switched to an Elk Hair Caddis, there were still few takes (as I said, the feeding seemed to be just below the surface).

Can anyone suggest:

  1. a black caddis dry pattern (or is that as simple as turning everything in an Elk Hair Caddis pattern black)?

  2. a caddis emerger that might match this hatch?

Thanks,
Andrew

this ia a black caddis that Bob Krumm builds…


harry mason
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If they’re taking just below the surface, try a LaFontaine Sparkle Pupa Emerger (gray or black) or a simple soft hackle with gray, purple, or black body and a turn or two of partridge feather. Fish them dead drift across stream and let them swing straight downstream of you. Trout like to hit 'em on that swing.

John

Here’s one for you.
[url=http://www.danica.com/flytier/jcaruso/little_black_caddis.htm:eb81c]http://www.danica.com/flytier/jcaruso/little_black_caddis.htm[/url:eb81c]

and another:
[url=http://www.danica.com/flytier/jfreund/biot_wing_black_caddis.htm:eb81c]http://www.danica.com/flytier/jfreund/biot_wing_black_caddis.htm[/url:eb81c]

In the “Flyfishing & Tying Journal” …winter 2006…p 88 there is a “Fluttering Winter Stone” article [pattern] that tied small should qualify…but…

I like Diane’s patterns.

another good patter that i always use is a a elkhair caddis but with moose for the wing so shes all black and peacock herl body.

Try adding a brown and/or black marker to your fly supplies. If you need a darker caddis pull out the pen.


There’s almost nothin’ wrong with the first lie, it’s the weight of all the others holdin’ it up that gets ya’! - Tim

Andrew

I like to fish a starling and herl when the fish are feeding on emerging caddis. It usually is very effective in a 16-18 on a TMC 900BL. Just what works for me here in the south

lets go fishin
Antron Midge


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Arthur Ransome

Jim Slattery has a pattern called The Triple Threat Caddis, he has black caddis pattern and it works great. I am sure if you ask he will tell you the pattern jimsflyco@aol.com [url=http://www.jimsflyco.com/html/triple_threat.html:b1629]http://www.jimsflyco.com/html/triple_threat.html[/url:b1629]

Joe Fox

Dear Andrew,

A couple of years ago a fellow from Maine that posted on this board sent me a couple of killer caddis emergers that he tied.

They were pretty much a tent winged caddis dry minus any hackle except for a beard of hackle underneath.

He sent me some in a dun gray color with mottled wings and they seem to work for any color caddis. Slow sporadic twitches really help to draw strikes.

A simple black partridge hackled wet fly will work too. And try a CDC caddis in black. Pull it under just before it swings in front of a fish and flip a little slack line out. Hang on when the thing pops back to the surface and a fish slams it.

Regards,
Tim Murphy

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I tie these with a very dark gray CDC body and a black deer wing for those little black caddis.

I thought you might find this link interesting. Lots of good info on this type caddis hatch, and a couple good patterns. I’ve had much better success fishing an emerger or skating some type dry fly imitation during this type hatch than fishing a dry fly imitation dead drifted. Some times imitating the insect’s behavior beats having the perfect imitation fished the wrong way.
[url=http://www.thomasames.com/insects/article/wintercad/wintercad.htm:d0db1]http://www.thomasames.com/insects/article/wintercad/wintercad.htm[/url:d0db1]

Don’t know were you are ? But I use a pattern that I have tied for many years that works very well on the small Black Caddis that comes off the rivers out here. It is very easy to tie

Hook- To size Out here we tie them in #18’s 20’s and 22’s

Body is Black Flash-Abou. Just wrapped around the hooks to cover the shank.

Wing- Black CDC as long as the body.

Hackle- Two turns of Black hackle to size. We at times will trim the hackle on the underside to get the fly to float flush on the surfae if the fish are being picky.

An Emerger for this fly is the same tie on a curved hooks like a Scud hook. Just tie the wing about half the body length and one torn of hackle. Add 3 or so strands of the black CDC on the tail as a trailing shuck. Real easy.

This pattern also works very well as a midge pattern. That is one reason I think it works so well. I do tie a bunch of both styles each year for orders. Never have given it a name. People that order it just ask for the black caddis. I also tie it in other colors for midges. Ron

I once hosted a Black Caddis Swap and here were the entries:

Sheldon - Little Snowshoe Caddis
Aaron - Polywing Caddis sz18
Dale - Black Caddis Larvae
Richard - Black Klinkhamer Special
Jerry - Little Black Caddis
Bob G - Starling & Black sz16
Bob M - Black CDC & Elk Caddis
Stephen - Fisher Caddis
Alan - Michigan black caddis sz16
Tim - BlacX-caddis sz18
Steven - Tape Wing Black Caddis
Frank - Fred’s Caddis sz16
Myself - Peacock Caddis Wet sz16

These should keep you busy for awhile.

Regards,

Bob
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Tie a black soft hackle
hook:103bl
thread:Black 8/0 uni
body:small black wire
hackle:starling or black hackle

Bones,

Where do I find the pattern for that Caddis Emerger that Bob ties, its awesome and I gotta have it.

Thanks in advance,

Terry

This fly pattern is for a dry Black Caddis pattern, from “The Caddisfly Handbook” (An Orvis Streamside Guide) by Dick Pobst and Carl Richards…

Black Caddis

Hook Size:
Brachycentrus , #16
Micrasema, #20
Amiocentrus, #20
Glossosoma, #20
Mystacides, #16
Ceraclea, #14
Neophylax, #18

Body: Dark Gray Dubbing

Wing:Black or gray hen hackle on Scotch tape, cemented (recommend a fleximent or a artist spray that protects watercolor paintings surface), folded, and clipped to shape.

Parnelli’s Notes I like to tie a small dismeter collar, right behind the eye of the hook (ahead of the wing). This fly is designed to have the body sit in the water surface.

I wrote a “Tying Tip” article, titled “Caddisfly”, which is listed in the “Tying Tip Archive List” as “Caddis Wing”

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which will demonstrate how to do the wing construction.

[This message has been edited by Steven H. McGarthwaite (edited 19 December 2005).]