i am new to tying and have a few old magazines that i came across at a garage sale… 1 ‘recipe’ says tobend the hook so that it ‘rides up’… how??
thanks in advance
Meg
If you want a hook to ride upside as in a bendback streamer you can take a pliers and make a very slight upward bend ( with the hook upside down allready) about two eye lengths behind the eye of the hook. It doesn’t require a very sharp angle to be effective.
all leaders tangle; mine are just better at it than most. Jim
im really blonde… is the eye bent towards the point or away from it???
bend the eye portion of the hook up toward the eye. This effectively creates a keel hook. Remember that the hook will now run upside down in the water so tie the fly that way. If you are going to weight the hook it helps to add a strip of lead wire along the bottom (formerly the top) of the hook shank.
all leaders tangle; mine are just better at it than most. Jim
bend the eye portion of the hook up toward the eye. This effectively creates a keel hook. Remember that the hook will now run upside down in the water so tie the fly that way. ------------------
I do this for tying a skating caddis works really good.
John
Doesn’t the original Klinkhammer recipe call for bending the hook? In any case, I think the hook riding upside down really works, as in the Clouser style. I also think there are commercial hooks available that are bent in this manner. Can’t remember the source now.
I’m very tempted to try the bent hook trick myself. What would be the reason not to do so?
In any case, I think the hook riding upside down really works, as in the Clouser style. I also think there are commercial hooks available that are bent in this manner. Can’t remember the source now.
PARTRIDGE Code-K3A Swedish Dry fly hooks
they work fine---John
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Castwell, perhaps you could have elaborated in a more helpful way on why you thought bending the hooks was not a good idea, instead of your original curt response.
Also, if you’re concerned with people not revealing enough info in their profiles, why not require the information to be filled out as a requirement of registration?
CD
Chris Del Plato
Long Valley, NJ
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Toward the hook point Meg,about 1/3 the shank lenth down from the hookeye should do nicely on most streamer hooks,Does’nt take much to achive what your looking to.
Good luck and welcome to a very fun extention to the Flyfishing Life…,Bill
“Wish ya great fishing”
“As for required information, I am for less things required, not more.”
Yet it seems you were not happy with the level of info she provided.
“… if you decide to stay around a place run by such a ‘curt’ person as myself. If you do decide that your many talents and wise opinions would be given greater esteem on another BB somewhere, let me be the first to bid you farewell.”
I just find it hypocritical to promote ones self/site as being such a ‘helpful family’, and then turn and shoot back ‘curt’ comments in a less-than-helpful way.
Invitation accepted.
"Unless I missed it, you did not respond to MEG at all. "
I thought the previous replies answered her question. I had nothing else to add.
CD
Chris Del Plato
Long Valley, NJ
im really blonde…
lol
Gentlemen…(Cstwell and streamtyer)
please! since i seem to have been the cause of this ‘feather display’, is this really the forum for such. i see both points and they miss the mark entirely… Castwell admits to being a crumudgeon… my dad was 1 and i loved him dearly… streamtyer means well but estrogen rules!! thanks everyone for everything…
Meg
maybe i should go elsewhere…
Meg,
When you bend the hook to tie Klinkhammer Special, there are two ways. First, you can bend the hook in a normal temperature with flat nose pliers, which the originator of that pattern prefers. Second, Oliver Edward lightly heats the part of hook to be bent with a simple butane lighter, and then bends it. Although some say that heating the hook to bend it damages coating of the hook so that the hook becomes more fragile where you heat it, Oliver Edward does not agree with this.
On the other hand, Kelly Galloup bends the hook sideways to get curved body profile for his spinner pattern. His rationale is that spent spinner usually shows curved rather than straight body, and that it may be a trigger for trout to strike your fly. Gary LaFontaine also wrote much about how flex or curved body profile of grasshopper can be a triggering feature.
To bend the book the Kelly Galloup way, you had better use the jaws of your vise rather than pliers. Open the jaws of your vise 2 to 3 times as wide as the diameter of your hook, put the 2/3 part of TMC 100 or 101 from the hook eye inside the jaws and then bend it. And, put the 3/1 part from the hook eye and then bend it again. Now you have curved (arch-shape) body profile for spinner pattern. You may want to achieve this effect not all at once but with two to three attempts in order to minimize damage to the hook.
My Best,
adso4
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Meg,
Are you trying to bend hooks for salt or fresh water flies. Bob Popovicks talks about the former in his book “popfleyes”. Two points I remember are: 1.you don’t need to bend it much (eye away from point) to get the hook to ride point up, and 2. don’t make a sharp angled bend but rather a somewhat more curved bend. The sharp angle weekens the hook.
Regards,
Keith
“Time’s fun when you’re having flies.” Kermit the Frog
Meg
If you are new to tying and really want to get in to it and advance your skills try and find someone or a shop near you that will help you along with a lesson or two. If that isn’t possible read and follow up on various forums to help you improve your skills. Most of all don’t be afraid to experiment, that’s where all of this comes from. If you want to try bending the hook or whatever, just do it and see what you come up with. Go to the Mustad sponsor page, they should show a bendback hook in their line. After you see an example of a manufactured bendback you will see how to do it on any size hook. Good luck and happy tying.
Mike