Dave,
I really like the looks of the albright loop that you wrote about in OTW mag.
It looks like it would be as strong or stronger than any other fly line loop.
The question.
With three sections of fly line under the albright, do you find that you have any trouble with it passing through the guides?
I’ve had Lefty’s whipped loop let go on me before, I would be willing to convert if you make me a true believer.
I really don’t think it’s much larger than a whipped loop–maybe a little, but not much. i use it for the salt and have never had it fail, plus you can control the size of it. with a little practice it’s easy to tie, and you will probably have everything you need with you streamside to tie one. The key, though, is using mono or fluro to tie it; i tried it with backing and it didn’t hold up. Good luck!
Dudley…
If you want a really small smooth connection try a variation of Lefty?s whipped loop.
Under the whipping tie three eight turn nail knots with 40 pound or better gelspun. Leave about an eighth of an inch between each knot. Then do your whipping to smooth the loop out. You can control the exact size of the loop you want with the whipping. Then coat the whipping with Loon?s Knot Sense (Not the UV stuff as it peals.) I guarantee that this loop will not come apart.
Dick,
Nail knots give me a headache. This albright loop looks like a winner.
Dave,
Perhaps a “lock” on the albright will help ( three turns around the standing line, then through the loop, like a clinch.)
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Dudley…
Your problem with the nail knot is probably that you do not have the right tool to tie it. The Tie Fast tools sucks as far as I am concerned. Way to large and hard to handle. Check out the C&F 3 in 1 nail knot pipe tool. See: [url=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=7299&item=7150762924&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V:64ed5]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=7299&item=7150762924&rd =1&ssPageName=WD1V[/url:64ed5]
This tool make them a snap. The extremely small diameter tube is the secret. If there is anything that is bad about this tool, it?s that it is so small it can be easy to loose.
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Dudley, that’s a good idea. right now i use two half hitches to finish the knot, and that works pretty well too. Practice tying it a few times and you’ll see it really is easy. Once On The Water is out for a few weeks, I’ll post that article on FAOL
It?s funny JC, but the nail knot loop is the preferred method of Nick Curcione and Lefty Kreh. I was not talking about just a nail knot on the line but a loop in the fly line formed with a series of nail knots. The trick is that the nail knots must be tied with gel spun. Which almost becomes part of the line when tied properly.
Curcione wrote an article about it in the January/February 2005 edition of ?Fly Fishing In Salt Waters? magazine.
They seem to think that this type of loop is good enough for the front of shooting heads used in the salt for fish of the tuna class. Seems strong enough for me.
J,
I’d have to disagree with you. There’s no need in them bying the tickets. It seems that they’ve already used all their luck with the knots. LOL
Rusty <><
if you wanna catch something ya gotta get a hook in the water
In defense of DickM, his combination of three gel-spun nail knots, whipped over and glued, would most likely hold untill the next iceage.
But there are three more nail knots in it then I care to tie.
Don’t get me wrong, I use a needle knot on my lite trout lines, I just would rather not use a nail-knot if I don’t have to.
Besides, my yankee heritage won’t allow me to spend 15 bucks on a tool to tie a knot that I would rather not use.
To tie a nail knot I use a small cotter pin, it works rather well.
Then try the albright loop–you won’t be disappointed!
Thanks Dudley