Ah Folks, ... Lets play safe ...Please!

As I noticed on the thread about other hobbies that there are some snowmobilers out there, … lets be carefull please.

The trails here have only been open for a couple of weeks and I’ve had 5 call outs already (3 lost, 2 accidents).

A quick google search reveals several fatal accidents too across the US.
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Christopher Chin, Jonquiere Quebec
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Too bad about the snowmobiler. Prayer and good wishes to his family. You bring up a good pont here, Chris. My uncle used to deal Polaris sleds and atv’s. He wouldn’t sell anyone a high powered sled until they attended a free course on safety with his snowmobile club. Most folks don’t realize how powerful snowmobiles are. These are not four wheelers. Not uncommon for a factory sled to be able to exceed 100m.p.h right from the factory. We had a club member hit a deer on a Polaris 440 Trails sled one night. He got banged up but walked away. Deer killed and sled totaled.

To anyone that rides a snowmobile, be safe and always wear your helmet!


Eric “nighthawk”

American veteran and proud of it!

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One of the greatest hazzards is getting to an area in 15-20 minutes at high speed that can take you over a full day, at very cold temps, to walk back from if you break down. Make sure you have good walking gear, which many times isn’t good snowmaching gear, with you on the sled. Have fun

Chris;
We’ve had one death and several accidents in my area too. It Seems as thought it’s flat out speed now and not touring as we did back in the early 70’s. My group was actualy stoped by a deputy and congratulated on doing a proper road crossing! I don’t think anyone know what that is now!
The introduction of “Snowmobiling” was a great boost to Northern Michigan’s economey.
We had Resturants, Gas Stations, Bars and Resorts doing more business in winter that in summer. The sleds were slow and people went out to enjoy the winter sights along the trail. A 3 hour 30 mile trip for lunch was the norm. Now that trip must only take 30 minutes and the hell with what there is to see along the way!! Another sport corrupted by the need for speed!!
“Here’s your boat it’ll do 50 mph, here’s the keys, have fun!!”.
P.S. my first sled in 1971 would do 90 mph and I carried a lot of spare spark plugs!!
P.P.S. The snowmobile actualy helped the deer herds. Giving them trails so they could move around with more freedom!!


I feel more like I do now than I did when I got here!

Cactus

we’ve got guys out here in Mt.that are running nitrous oxide on their sleds in an effort to be the best highmarker in th area some of those cats are probably more horse power than my V-8 pickup

Not a rant … but, …

The 3 I went out to get last week (on 3 different occasions) were called in by cell and sat phones.

They were all break downs. These folks remembered to bring PHONES and not snow shoes !!!

Whenever one wanders in the woods, … just for fun sake… ASSUME that you are on your OWN and that NO ONE will/can/should come and look for you. … Many folks would get into less trouble that way.

Prepare for the worst …
Play Hard …
Come home safe.


Christopher Chin, Jonquiere Quebec
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What’s snow?

Gringo … LOL!!!

Thanks, … Best laugh so far on a blustery monday morning.


Christopher Chin, Jonquiere Quebec
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As one of those, who put for other hobbies Snowmobiling here is a few things to remember if you decide to ride.
Never ride alone period.

A GPS is needed even if its just a basic model.

A good map and compass is not an option even with a GPS you must have one.

Carry extra food, fuel, spare oil, spare spark plugs {at least 2 sets} and at least one belt, spare starter rope and tools, flash light with good batteries, an emergency blanket, 2-way radio, tow rope, shovel, water,spare warm clothes, 2 pair of spare gloves, a signal device and fire making equipment at the least for every rider. Also its a good idea to carry electrical tape, bailing wire, spare nuts and bolts, cotter pins, and wire ties.
AS I said this is the least you should carry and I may have missed something.

Alway stay in control and do not ride outside of your skill level.

If you plan to ride in areas that might have slides, then carry an emergency beacon and snow prod for every rider.

Let someone not riding know were the group plans to ride.

Keep the sled in good repair.

Ride only in approved areas.

Alway wear your helmet

Lean to side hill even if trail riding is all you plan to do. Learn from someone skilled at it or better yet take a riding course.

Alway go to the pace of the slowest rider in your group.

learn to signal other riders the amount of riders behind you when coming up on them on the trail.

Give all other trail users the right of way.

Do not approach wild life.

Remember that most snowmobiles weight 500 LBS or more and add snow to the inside of the track and its weight goes up even more. It takes at least 2 people to get it unstuck from deep snow or to turn it back over if you roll it. Also if it starts to roll over, you will not be able to stop it by getting in front of it. Get out of the way and let it take the damage and not you.

Alway be ready to help other snow users you come across that are in trouble. I have had to help in a few rescues myself. They may have cut into my day of riding, but I would not have felt good about the rest of the ride if I did not help out. At times it may have been as simple of a rescue on giving them some of my spare cotter pins other times its been a cliff rescue. I alway hope I will get help if needed and so far I have and so far the rescues on myself have been simple such as helping to get my sled back out of a sink hole in the snow. Its not a question on if you will ever get in trouble but just when. The main rescue you will end up helping with is digging out a stuck sled. I have lost count by far the amount of these I have helped with and the amount of times, I have been helped.

Also because I have come across many riders with broken down sleds who were sending someone for help because they could not figure out how to tow a broken down sled back to camp or base here is a little tip. You can not tow a sled with the motor still hooked up to the track. By removing the clutch belt the track becomes able to spin on its own without the drag of the engine allowing the sled to be pulled by another seld. In the last two years my riding group has had to help 3 other groups with this simple issue. Every member of the goup needs to learn to remove and replace the belt if needed for their make of sled. Besides after spark plugs the clutch belt is the most common item to go out.

These are just some of the things to think about before you ride. Before riding either learn from some one skilled in both riding and outdoor survival or better yet take a safe ridding course. Even if you learn to ride from someone else get a book from a local snowmobile club or the library on rider safety.

Hikepat, …

Thank you for taking the time to post that.

All excellent points.

I’m not a snowmobiler for leisure. I guess I spent too many days out using the darn things for forest exploration back when you had to be a master mechanic to keep the beast alive and burping.

Now I always seem to be on one at 04h00 in the pitch dark heading out to find some poor soul who is over due or wrapped around a tree.

Ride safe


Christopher Chin, Jonquiere Quebec
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Hey Folks,

Just a reminder, any time your going off
the beaten trail exploring, give some real
thought to “what if”. It matters not if you
use a snowmobile, dirt bike, or even a
conventional outboard. Make sure you leave
a travel/float plan with someone that can
be trusted to follow up. Ensure that you
cover emergency situations to the best
extent possible. Remember, cell phones may
not work at extreme ranges from the towers.
Even hikers need to let folks know where
they will be. A twisted ankle could mean
a night or two out in poor conditions.
Warm regards, Jim

Jim, …

Good thought.

I suppose the best What if? question is, …

What if I can’t make it back to the car/motel/house?

Could you sleep over with the stuff you have on you or on your sled/boat/ATV?

Would you be “comfortable”? (ie, would ou die?)


Christopher Chin, Jonquiere Quebec
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