i am looking for a 5w rod to fish in the small streams for brookies and panfish. the rod i have right now is 8 1/2 feet in length (7-8w). I am wondering if i should go with the 8’ over the 8 1/2. i would just get another 8 1/2 but some of these trout streams are very tight in areas.
Having now fly fished for over a dozen years, I think i’ve just arrived at what might be the best all around fly rod for trout and panfish~an 8’ 4wt. I too fish small streams, an like the flexibility of chucking streamers from time to time. The only times a 9’ wins over an 8’ for me is in windy conditions, when I need distance, or when i’m in deep water. (float tube etc.)
I agree with thezugbug, 8’ 4 wt is ideal for speckles, just caught a beautiful 2.5 lb male,hooked jaw and all, at the cottage on the weekend with mine, using an Allies Favourite streamer. The lighter the outfit the greater the challenge.
new2fly - I like a 5 wt and since I cut my eye teeth with an 8’ rod, that combination is about my favorite rod for stream fishing. Also have a 5 wt, 9’ rod that I use for stillwater fishing and especially fishing from the canoe; can get a little more distance with this rod.
Do have other weight rods in other lengths, 7 1/2’, 8 1/2’ and 9’ - but I just like the handiness and familiarity of an 8’ rod.
It can be worked on the smallest streams and tight areas. It’s also a lot easier to just drop a fly in a small spot on the stream without even casting.
btw, I have a 9’ 5wt rod and reel for sale, but it didn’t influence my opinion. )
There are a several ways to look at dealing with congested casting areas.
Shorter rods will allow you more ‘swing room’ in tight areas. Longer rods allow more ‘reach’ for flicking flies into tight places and over/through/under thick brush.
I have and use both a 6’ 6" 2 wt. and a 9’ 3 wt. for small streams, depending on the stream and my mood for the day.
Both work well in tight quarters, they just work differently.
The 6" difference between an 8 and an 8 1/2 is negligible in any event. Buy the rod that feels best to you.
For me, to answer you question and provide some advice, I would need to know how small are you streams you fish and the size of the flies you use. If the streams are real narrow, you may want less than 8’ in length. As a “hobby” rod builder, I have built several fly rods in the 6’6" TO 8’ range for friends who fish small streams. The most popular size has been a 7’6" 4wt.
In terms of rod weight, it seems to me unless you are throwing big bugs, you need to come down from your 7-8wt to something in the 3-5wt range.
I agree that when you are dealing in tight quarters you won’t notice the difference of six inches. I personally prefer a longer rod because it makes it a little easier to sit back a bit when I’m fishing, and it also helps to keep line off the water for the pocket water that is usually present in smaller streams. if you get into a position where you really need a short rod, all you need do is break the rod down in half, and use the mid to tip portion of the rod only. You aren’t gonna need a reel so that won’t really matter and you’ll feel a little funny, but it works.
I primarily wet/nymph fish with 4WT rods for all my trout fishing and I have finally settled on 7?and 9’ rods.
The 9’ rod though it seems long is great for controlling the drift and works well in boats and from what I have read tubes.
The 7’ rod is great in tight situations and works fine even when I have the room and should be using the 9’. However, the 7? does not have the reach to control the drift as well as the 9? but some times, I am too lazy to bring both rods.
In the past tried a 6’ rod but it was way to short. That said I do have a fast action 6’6" bamboo rod that I love and wish I could find similar bamboo rod action in a 9’ length.