Is there really that much of a difference between a 5 wgt and a 6 wgt rod ?
There is some difference. It is not dramatic but for a day’s worth of fishing your arm might notice the extra weight of a 6. Pulling in a big fish the 6 might help by giving you a little more backbone in your fight.
One way to look at it is that I would not own any 2 rods that were 1 weight apart, meaning I won’t own a 5 and a 6 weight rod or a 7 and 8 weight rod. They are too similar and therefore not a good investment. I own a 4,6,8 and 10 weight rod.
Hope this helps.
jed
just one guy’s opinion, but i have owned a 6wt. and i found that my fast action 5wt. could do everything my 6 wt. could do, so got i got rid of the 6.
The weight and length of the blank are another considerations. I think they all make a difference. I have a cheap 5 Wt. Blank that has the backbone of an 8 Wt. Also, my 6 Wt. rod is much heavier than a few of my 5 wts. I really can notice a difference. Just my opinion.
Then there is the difference that occurs over time …as technology improves…e.g. I had a 7 wt that was much heavier than a later model 8 wt…same company
As the previous poster mentioned there is more to a rod than the line that it is suppose to load the best at an average casting distance or weight of the rod. I find that the action makes the biggest difference too. I have 10 outfits and wouldn’t let any of them go. I also own 4 different 4 wts. I have a 3 wt that is very fast indeed and it can punch through wind as easily as a slow action 5 wt.
Different people have different casting strokes. Some people have the patience and the mentality to cast a slow action rod. They are much more forgiving, but I am a fast action fan all the way.
If you are going to chase something larger like try to push that single rod into a steelhead rod pick the 6 over the 5. If you are fishing panfish and trout in smaller streams pick the 5 or even consider a 4wt. If I could only have one rod to fish the spring creeks that I fish for trout it would be a 4 wt.
Remember you don’t have to just have one rod and the real truth of the matter is that this isn’t your last rod, it is just the next rod. Fishing panfish and trout up to 20" you will have more fun with the 4 than you will with the 6.
Join your local TU or FFF chapter and there will be guys there that will help with your casting and let you try different action types and different weight rods with very little graveling. :rolleyes: Go to a pro shop and buy a couple hours of casting instruction and try different rod types while you are there. Learning how to cast better on the front end is much better than struggling for years and then trying to break the bad habbits that have formed.
Rick
Perhaps to recap, today there is likely to be more difference between makes and models of rods than between 5-weight and 6-weight rods within a given brand/line. Try out a rod before you buy it. Try as many as you can. Play fair. Don’t try out a bunch of rods at a fly shop and then order one online. The increased price at the fly shop helps to cover the expertise which they provide.
In general, the 6-weight rods will be heavier and take slightly more effort with each cast therefore be more tiring by the end of the day. Also they should be able to more easily handle a heavier line which means the ability to handle flies which need more muscle (i.e. heavier line) to cast them because of the weight, wind resistance, etc… of those flies.
Of course, you could just wait for Castwell to weigh in.
Ed
I own many fly rods, from 2 wt up thru 9 wts.
I use my 5 wts mainly while fishing lakes for trout. As long as the wind isn’t going to be much of a problem and as long as I don’t have to cast big heavy flies, then the 5 weight does well. But when casting into a strong wind or chucking large streamers, then I use my 6 weights.
I do have a 5 weight that I use for dry flies, a true medium action Sage rod. It is great for presentation type casts. I use this on rivers as well as lakes. It will handle a fairly bushy dry fly but I can easily switch over to my 6 weight if the fly is too big vs. the wind.
It all comes down to what you want to cast with, your casting style and what you are fishing for.
Larry —sagefisher—
One of the things about the rod weight difference is to consider what you are going to use it for.
I own from a 4 weight to an 8 in various makes and lengths and each is for a specific purpose.
The 4 weight is for small to medium rivers, the 5 weight for medium rivers, the 6 weight is for dry fly work on the loughs here in Ireland while I use a 7 weight for wet work on the same waters. The 8 weight hardly sees any action at all these days and I have a 12ft 5-7 weight boat rod that I used to use exclusively on the Scottish lochs that is gathering dust as my casting style has changed.
Rounding it up, it is a case of horses for courses and in saying that, personal preference is still the major factor in deciding what weight of rod to use.
I cut my eye teeth on an 8’ fiberglass rod that was the equivalent of a 6wt. Over the years I have not suffered from a lack of flyrods! My repertoire of rods today run from 4wt to 9wt with all slots filled in between. My favorite general use rod is a 5wt. So much so that I have three of them … an 8’ and 9’ med action and a 9’ fast action. I suppose a lot has to do with what you become accustomed too, plus what I like to think what fits our use best … in my case that’s a 5wt.
Fly
For my type of fishing(warmwater for panfish & Bass), there’s a big difference between a 5wt & 6wt. I fish fiberglass fly rods exclusively and in lengths from 7 1/2’ to 8 1/2’. My first choice is always an 8ft 5wt. But, if I’m going to fish windy conditions or a popper dropper setup then the 6wt gets the nod. I typically fish flies from size 6 to 14 with my popper dropper typically being size10 gurgle pop and size 12 or 14 nymph. This popper dropper team is just a little too much for me to cast on a 5wt but casts with ease on a 6wt. The other thing I notice between the two weights is that a bass over 3lbs is much more difficult to land on my 5wt then on my 6wt.
Hope this helps;
Wayneb
My wife owns a Ron Kusse quad 5wt and I have a 6wt. Same magnum opus models. To me the difference is remarkable. The 5wt is a fine dry fly rod; clean, crisp, delicate. The 6wt; dynamic, authoritative, solid.
I feel there is a huge difference between the two. A 5wt rod is a great all around trout rod. My 6wt is a great bone fish & schoolie striper rod, I would never even consider the 5wt in the salt on either of these fish. The 5 wt is delicate, the 6wt is a bull. Both rods are the same rod from the same manufacturer (Gatti), but very different.
Living in NJ a 5wt is all you need and a 6wt would be overkill on our streams. So for my case there is a difference. Like mentioned above though, since i own a 5wt i would probably get a 7wt if i wanted a heftier rod.
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I agree that you don’t need a bunch of rods that are only one line weight apart. Personally, I prefer the even numbers. A short 4 wt is a nice light rod that will handle hoppers, panfish poppers, and stimulators. A 3 wt just won’t cut it with those flies. I disagree that a 6 wt will tire you out faster than a 5. The extra power will make it easier to cast, and it won’t weigh much more than a 5 wt.
All things being equal as to action and how well the rods handle the line weight specified, I wouldn’t be inclined to have rods one weight apart.
I’ve got 3, 5, and 7 weight graphite rods which cover the trout fishing I do on small creeks to big rivers, casting everything from tiny dries to tandems of good sized nymphs, and handling small creek brookies and bows to big South Fork browns nicely.
For the time being, I am doing it all with a single rod - an 8’ for 5 wt Elkhorn Bamboo. It’s involved some compromises compared to what the three graphite rods will do, but I’ve only got nine months to go before I give them another try. As much as I like the bamboo, those rods may end up on the For Sale Forum at some point.
John
Bazakwardz,
You have a valid point, depending upon the casting style of the caster.
That is one of the reasons I continue to use my 11 foot 6 weight Sage XP and Z-Axis rods for nymphing; to ease the pressure on my shoulder. There is so little effort when making a cast. A simple movement to the left or right while on my forward cast and I have tossed a nice reach cast. Then as soon as the line hits the water just a twist of my wrist and a little forearm action and I have tossed in a huge mend. Every now and then I end us nymphing with a 9 foot rod, and I can feel the shoulder injury right away, you have to use so much movement with your arm and upper body to accomplish the same type of cast that is so very easy with the 11 footer.
Larry —sagefisher—
The way I look at it. All 5wts. are also 6 wts. and 6wts. are 5 wts. Depends how much line you have out in the air. Lots of rods out there are labeled 5/6wt. rod.
bazakwardz & JohnScott …
I can give you the perfect reason for having rods only one weight apart.
Back-up rods.
If you are ever traveling and you break the rod that should be used for the conditions of the fishing, you will have a choice to go up or down only one size to match the conditions with your backup rod.
If you only have even number weights you will have to use a rod that is two weights off.
Say you have a 4 and a 6 and you break the 6. Try throwing hoppers or good size streamers with a 4 on a big river.