I’d would say to blindfold yourself and then put a 2 piece rod in one hand and a 4 piece rod in the other hand and then tell yourself which one is the lighest.
If you are dead set on buying this RS3 Redington 2 piece fly rod then go for it. There are so many places online that sell them.
Thanks guys for your help. I was redemptive today and I went back to the same Outdoor Provision store and the salesman was much warmer toward my needs. Maybe his boss is a member of FAOL. I got to cast an RS3 5 weight in a nine foot length. I liked it better than the Sage Launch 5 weight, 9 foot. I still think I will go with a four weight, nine foot in the RS3. I wonder how heavy a fly I can cast respectfully with the four weight Redington RS3. I would assume nothing bigger than a no. 10. Am I correct, friends. Please respond.
A few years back I built myself a four piece 9wt.
Broke it the first day out, butt section near the ferrule.
Got myself another blank and rebuilt the rod. Busted first day out again. Second section at the same ferrule
Third try…third section broke :evil:
Same rod (sort of) three different sections broken.
I now have a Frankenstein rod (different sections, different colors) that works just fine, but I can’t help but think that a two piece rod would have been less trouble[/quote]
What blank did you buy, and could it have been the wrappings around the ferrule?
Keep in mind you could have broken a 2 piece three times also.
I think they will phase out 2 pc in the future due to supply and demand and specially air travel.
In fact, I would not be suprise to see the ever popular FAR-N-FINE come out in 2007 as a 4pc. like the TROUT BUM. I don’t know this, but it wouldn’t suprise me, due to the fact of the name TROUT BUM.
It was a popular blank from a very popular sponser here on FAOL
The defect was in the way the blank was cut, not from any fault of mine.
I stand by my statement that the fewer the number of pieces, the less likely it is to break.
While what you say is true about customer service going downhill I also think that it is important to present another side to the story. Customers are going down hill too.
How often do people come in to try rods and decide what they want so they can buy it a little cheaper from the net or a bix box store.
How often do people ask someone to order something for them, try it when it arrives and decide they don’t want it and then go to the next place and buy something. I think if you ask someone to order something for you, whenever possible you should continue the process with them until they get a sale. The obligation is a two way street.
How often do people buy things, break them and then return them, expecting the dealer to make good, because of their carelessness. " My rod broke, please order me a replacement, overnight shipping… Sure I slammed it in the car door but its a lifetime warranty", expecting the shop owner to pay extra shipping because the buyer messed up.
The realtionship between owners and customers must be a two way street for it to be successful. Loyalty both ways, honesty and reasonable expectations are necessary for successful relationships.
That salesman gave you his opinion. You can not hold that against him, if you do not want him to hold your opinions against you. The problem with having opinions in a consumer based market, he should have given you the facts and saved his chattering in his Fly-Fishing Club meeting. The simple matter is that the average fly angler could not tell the difference in the rod, unless you compare quality rod and bargain bin type equipment. A good rod fishes like a good rod. A big name manufacturer would not waste time and money to sell you a sub-par product to save you room in your gear bag.
In my opinion, I would not buy a 2 piece rod for the following reason.
Hard to travel on airlines, I do not like to check rods unless I have too.
Very few people can tell the difference between a 2 piece and a 4 piece when casting. Try doing a blind rod test, with different rods, 2 or 4 piece. Don’t let the person see the rod, have them cast it, two things will happen, several lower cost rods will be liked and most people will not know the difference betwee 2 and 4. I have done this several times and the results are the same. Make sure the fly line are the same.
I do not believe the mark up between 2 and 4 is different.
Why are you asking for opinions when you already know all about rods and have Al Campbell to back you up? Get a two piece rod. You will not ever be happy with anything else!
I actually prefer 3 piece and even 5 piece rods over 2 or 4 piece rods. For a long time I didn’t have a clue why, but then one day on FOAL someone pointed out the reason; harmonics. The ferrules in 2 and 4 piece rods lie on the nodal points of the rod and interfere with the harmonics of the rod which, to me at least, gives the rod that ‘multipiece’ feeling or perhaps it’s better described as that ‘mulipiece’ lack of feeling (as these sort of things are subjective and difficult to quantify). I find that I don’t notice the extra pieces when fishing a 3 piece rod and I notice them a lot less on a 5 piece rod than I would on a 4 piece rod. Of course, it’s obviously more convenient to have a rod that can be divided in half, but I’ll take the rod with an odd number of pieces over a 2 or 4 piece any day of the week. Your milage may vary, but I’d suggest you at least give casting a 3 piece rod a chance.
That also depends on your choice of manufacturers. I know several have that 3, 5 option, but for example Orvis only makes 2, 4 and 7 and I think they will introduce a 3 this coming year.
I have a 2 piece St Croix Legend Ultra 5wt I would trade for a similar 3 or 4 piece rod. I guess that gives away my side of the story. Any takers? CFISHER
This could be interesting. Is your rod for sale or trade? My rod is in perfect used condition. One draw back for you though - it is inscribed with my name just above the grip. Cfisher