Can’t do it like Charlie in 1:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD0uIga8-kc
but I’ve got it down to 2:05 even with the flashback:
Regards,
Scott
Looks good. Now tie another 10,000 and you’ll get close to Charlie’s time.
Charlie is da debbil; he ties left-handed and backwards. Malcom Gladwell should have devoted a chapter to him in Outliers.
Regards,
Scott
Charlie is an example of perfect practice makes perfect.
That looks really good!
I’d say you’re fast enough. That’s 30 an hour. Nice.
Is it? Tying one in two minutes is a lot different to tying 30 an hour. You’d be amazed, try tying a dozen of anything, all the same, and you’ll find it takes a lot longer than twelve times the time for one. I used to have a regular order for 100 Double Badgers every week for a shop. Even at my fastest I never got below 4 hours.
Cheers,
C.
Whats a Double Badger? Is that comparing Apples to Oranges? How fast were you at your fastest?
http://flyforums.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=stepbystep&action=display&thread=20721 GOOGLE is good!
Alan, you are exactly right. I recall a thread years ago when tying speed was discussed. Someone used the logic that if he could tye a fly in 2 minutes or even 2 in 4 minutes that equated to 30 an hour and, by extension, 180 flies in 6 hours. Oh, and although the original discussion considered continuous time, even 2 sittings with a 1/2 hour break would be the same. Here are the flaws in that logic, as I’m thinking you already know: Boredom sets in; Taking a break for a cigarette, coffee, bathroom, rub your eyes, etc.; Replacing a broken thread; Restocking supplies; Quality may become inconsistent; and maybe other interruptions that I haven’t identified.
Here’s a prime example: I participated in a ‘Speed Contest’ at a show some years ago. We participants all had to tye the same pattern and had an hour (60 continuous minutes). I tyed 46 flies. Now there is no way that I could have tyed another 46 flies in the next hour or on any continuous basis. Oh, I came in 2nd and the winner, you won’t believe this, tyed 68 flies! You may recognise the winners name, Edwin Rist. The pattern was a simple Soft Hackle, size 12: had to be a smooth thread body and soft hackle collar (we were given the hooks and a hen neck immediately before the contest to use).
Anyway, interesting discussion.
If you’d like to read the thread about tying speed, I started it on 11/14/05 after returning from that show. It’s kind of long but a good read. Here it is: http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?6348-Tying-Speed&highlight=speed+tying
Allan
I remember that thread Allan. Charlie demonstrated the PT or a Parachute Adams? As I remember some Negative Nancy nit picked the video by saying it didnt count as the materials were already layed out pryor to tying the fly. Maybe it was a different post.
Great job Scott whether you tie only one in two minutes or 30 in an hour.
No. Different thread.
I fall into the category as many others do, of not being able to keep the concentration level or interest up to tie all day or even numerous hours. So, yes the production falls off after the first hour for me.
Everyone is not created equal. The original poster set the goal set by Craven on his video. You’re talking about a guy that used to tie an average of 48,000 flies a year. Some years less, some years more. I can’t even imagine…but I can imagine you get pretty efficient at function and speed. I would guess that his 4th hour is pretty close to the first.
The only way I can even get in the same area code as Charlie is to have the materials laid out beforehand. If you read A.K. Best’s Production Flytying, that’s how the pros do it; they have everything set up to go before they start an order - paired wings, hackle sized and prepared, etc. Just to set the record straight here, 2:05 is my best time, not an average, which over the course of a dozen flies was about 20-25 seconds longer per fly. And no, I couldn’t keep up that pace over the course of an evening; that one was about the 5th I had tied that day and everything just fell on the hook like it was supposed to. I guess we all have moments like that every once in a while (I just wish they happened more often:) ).
Regards,
Scott
From the video, I’d bet money that he’s done that before . . . :^)