Welcome to Just Old Flies

Welcome to 'just old flies,' a section of methods and flies that used-to-be. These flies were tied with the only materials available. Long before the advent of 'modern' tying materials, they were created and improved upon at a far slower pace than todays modern counterparts; limited by materials available and the tiers imagination.

Once long gone, there existed a 'fraternity' of anglers who felt an obligation to use only the 'standard' patterns of the day. We hope to bring a bit of nostalgia to these pages and to you. And sometimes what you find here will not always be about fishing. Perhaps you will enjoy them. Perhaps you will fish the flies. Perhaps?


The Kings

By Eric Austin
Flies tied by Eric Austin, Andy Brasko (AndyB), and Don Shipp


This article was put together initially simply as an excuse to feature Andy Brasko's beautifully tied Grizzly King. Andy sent this to me along with The Captain, and I was so impressed I just had to put it up on the site. But the Grizzly King had been done in a previous article, so what to do? Then it hit me. What about all the other "Kings? I could, off the top of my head, come up with four, the ones featured here. There are others, Kingfisher and Kingdom to name two. But these will have to do for now. Another friend, Don Shipp, has helped out here with a fine tie of the Colorado King.


The Grizzly King
Fly Tied by Andy Brasko

This fly was done in a previous article, you'll find the history and recipe HERE. I'm struck by how many times this fly is listed as a favorite in letters to Mary Orvis Marbury and J. Edson Leonard, in their respective books. This fly is a great one, and still used today. Andy Brasko's version of the fly is a great one as well.


The Rio Grande King
Fly Tied by Eric Austin

This is a fly I remember well from my youth, whose name evokes the Mexican border. The fly, in both yellow and black patterns, was originated and first tied by Jim Douglas, Of Denver, Colorado. Among other patterns of his are the Gunnison and the Western Bee - a red striped version of the McGinty. J. Edson Leonard shows no less than four patterns for this fly, as well as one for the Rio Grande Queen, giving you an idea of the fly's popularity. What I find interesting though is that there is a nearly identical fly from British Columbia called "The Lioness." The only difference is the hackle and tail have red hackles mixed in, giving a more orange tint to the fly. The Lioness was developed in the 40s, so the Rio Grande King predates it, as it shows up in "Trout" in 1938. It just shows how a good idea gets around. Here are some recipes for "The Rio Grande King":

Rio Grande King #1 (shown above)

    Tail: Yellow.

    Body: Black chenille, gold tip.

    Hackle: Yellow.

    Wing: White Mallard or Goose.

    Rio Grande King #2

    Tail: Golden pheasant tippet.

    Body: Black chenille, gold tip.

    Hackle: Brown.

    Wing: White Mallard or Goose.

    Rio Grande King #3
    (The one I remember from the '60s)

    Tail: Red Hackle.

    Body: Black chenille, gold tip.

    Hackle: Brown.

    Wing: White Mallard or Goose.

    Rio Grande King Special

    Tail: Golden pheasant tippet.

    Body: Brown fore, yellow aft, floss.

    Hackle: Brown

    Wing: White Mallard or Goose.


    The King of the Waters
    Fly Tied by Eric Austin

    The King of the Water shown in Mary Orvis Marbury's book (late 1800s) has no tail. By the time we get to Trout by Ray Bergman, the fly has grown one. It's name has also changed slightly to "King of Waters" and by J. Edson Leonard's book in 1950, to the one I recognize, "King of the Waters." This is one of those flies that is so old that its origins are lost to the annals of history. As Mary Orvis Marbury puts it in Favorite Flies and their Histories:

    "The King of the Water dates back of "the three brothers that came over in the Mayflower," and is an old, well-known fly that has outlived its records. When it was first used, and by whom it was named, we cannot say; but it ranks well with the Professor, Grizzly King, Great Dun, Red Hackle, and other flies known to all anglers."

    The recipe's listed for the "King of the Waters" by J. Edson Leonard are as follows:

    King of Waters #1 (Mary Orvis Marbury's version)

    Tip: Silver tinsel.

    Body: Scarlet floss.

    Ribbing: Silver tinsel.

    Hackle: Brown palmer.

    Wing: Mallard.

    King of Waters #2 (Bergman, shown here)

    Tip: Gold tinsel.

    Tail: Mallard.

    Body: Scarlet floss.

    Ribbing: Silver Tinsel.

    Hackle: Brown.

    Wing: Mallard.


    The Colorado King
    Fly Tied by Don Shipp

    I'm not sure that this caddis pattern belongs with these wets, but it is a 'King' after all. I was very much helped out by T. Hellekson with patterns and history for this fly. Don Shipp sent me a fine picture of a great version of the light Colorado King that he tied for a swap. Here's what T. Hellekson had to say in a recent email to me:

    "I featured these patterns in my first book, Popular Fly Patterns (1976) and they still find a place in many fly boxes.

    Colorado King, Brown

    Hooks: MUSR50, TMC100 or DAI1170, sizes 6-18.

    Thread: Brown.

    Tail: Two dark moose hairs tied split.

    Hackle: Brown tied palmer-style over the body.

    Body: Dubbed with brown synthetic fur.

    Wing: Dark elk hair tied over the body.

    Colorado King, Dark

    Hooks: MUSR50, TMC100 or DAI1170, sizes 6-18.

    Thread: Black.

    Tail: Two dark moose hairs tied split.

    Hackle: Grizzly tied palmer-style over the body.

    Body: Dubbed with muskrat fur.

    Wing: Dark elk hair tied over the body.

    Colorado King, Dark Female

    Tied same as the Dark Colorado King except a dubbed yellow rabbit fur egg sac is tied in at the rear of the body.

    Colorado King, Light

    Hooks: MUSR50, TMC100 or DAI1170, sizes 6-18.

    Thread: Gray.

    Tail: Two dark moose hairs tied split.

    Hackle: Light case grizzly tied palmer-style over the body.

    Body: Dubbed with yellow synthetic fur.

    Wing: Light elk hair tied over the body.

    George Bodmer of Colorado Springs, Colorado, originated the Colorado Kings. I seriously doubt if he knew he was giving us something of such long lasting value.

    Originally these flies were not tied with the express purpose of simulating a caddis of any sort. They were what George considered to be his meat and potatoes and he wasn't all that sure why they were so darn effective. I believe the tail on these flies may have initially dampened the interests of some anglers, as the inclusion of tails is not usually adapted for caddisfly imitations. I look upon them as stabilizers giving better balance to the fly on fast, rough water. I doubt that the fish have little opportunity to examine this minor feature. The tails on these flies are mounted on each side of the body with the aid of a small ball of dubbed body material." ~ T. Hellekson

    ~ Eric Austin

    Credits: Popular Fly Patterns by T. Hellekson; Trout by Ray Bergman; Favorite Flies and their Histories by Mary Orvis Marbury; Flies by J. Edson Leonard; Fly Patterns of British Columbia by Arthur James Lingren.

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