Thanks for posting the link warren..and for all the info in this thread..Having not heard of this brand before...and Knowing in the future I'll be needing a good canoe as the kids get to where they can handle one on their own (With me not far off)...I'll be keeping this in mind...seem a good deal lighter not to mention WIDER..than most out there..Two very big issues where kids are concerned..both of my current water craft are of a solo nature..I'll prolly have to invest in a trailer for them all at some point!!!...