Variants, the old Indian necks had nice long stiff hackles. Drakes I use them alot, even thought the hackles are not as long it can still be hard to find and the Indian necks work just fine. The newer necks are not like they used to be, I dont buy many anymore, unless I get a look at them.

The rounded tips also make very good streamers.

Joe Fox

[This message has been edited by ashbourn (edited 18 October 2005).]