I'llsecond that Duckster.....which is why I now wish I had'nt just spent money on Griffin's "Bullethead Tools"( three hard plastic discks with a rubber type washer streched inside em)which when it cracks and fails...and I know it will...I now know what I'll replace em with..Thanks again Ron......Giver of sound and sage advice...

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"I've often wondered why it is that so many anglers spend so much money on,and pay so much attention to.the details on the wrong end of the fly line.If they took as much care in selecting or tying their flies as they did in the selection of the reel and rod,They might be able to gain the real extra edge that makes it possible to fool a fish that has,in fact,seen it all before" A.K.Best

"Wish ya great fishing"

Bill