John, Thank you for the information. I use lots of dubbing loops and will give this a try. I'm working on "designing" some patterns that will coax the big Tilapia in the lake I live on to take flies. Most of the time, people catch them on bread on a hook or sometimes a worm. These guys are like JUMBO sized Bluegill, growing upto 10 lbs. Big, flat bodies that they use well in the water during the fight, just like a bluegill. I'll let you know how I do.

Take care and stay safe.

Jim