I used what ever was included with the kit. I didnt go crazy with the Flexy Coat, just one coat, and I didnt go crazy with the wraps. I used all the guides that were included and used the placement included in the H&H catalog. I built the rod as it says on this site too. I just dont get it so thats what leads me to think its the line. The line feels like it just doesnt want to go threw the guides. It is a bit slower then my TFO but I can adjust my casting style so I dont think its me either.