Herefishy, Water in the rivers, San Juan and Piedra, are very low. We've had some rain since we've been here but not enough to raise the flow much. We were in Durango friday and the Animas is a lot lower than usual. Looks like fall flows around here. Also the waters I've waded are very warm. I'm used to the rivers and streams in the Eastern Sierras of California. They are cold year round. Jim