New, this spring to me, have the 7' 9" 4wt. lined with 4wt. Very sweet stick,great stock build and very nice looking if I may say so. Nice medium action all at reasonable price. If Lefty Kreh put his name on it I thought it would be good and it is more than I could hope for. Over 180 fish this spring in the Driftless here in Wisconsin. Tremendous small,spring creek rod. Wouldn't hesitate to buy their 1 or 2wt. Tight lines and have a smooth day.