I have an Avaid 8 1/2 4wt. I want another. I have fished both the 8 1/2 and 9 Foot Ultra 4wt they are nice casting rodsfor trout, but I catch fish, meaning bluegill in the 9-12in range14 in crappies and large and smallmouth bass the ultra just do not have enough power to land these strong sportt fish if they want to go into the weeds! Fishin' Jimmy My fish of choice is Blue Gill. You get a strong 10 in
gill or Bream 1 1/2 -2inch wide, thoes of you who do not fish them do not understand they do not swim in circles when you land them
they tend to go where ever they want like a freight train and use there dinner plate size to there advantage. I know that I will break my
present Avaid one one of these fish. I just want one or two more so that I can keep on fishin'.