Great comments everyone. What prompted this thread was tying known patterns. I have a couple of friends who insist that I tie only known patterns that someone else originally came up with. Like I am too dumb to create something and the people that created the known patterns have idol status. I do enjoy experimenting and trying new things but when "my" ties are done I can usually say that has a body like "X" and a wing like "X" and a tail like ....

Normand - Super cool library. If you were a neighbor who needs to go to the public library, I would have to keep you in your favorite beverage for the opportunity to borrow a book now and then and return it in the same condition it was given to me. Now that is an investment. You could tie a new pattern everyday for the rest of both of our lives and still not tie them all.

Rick