Im in the same camp as Ree. He knows. Hes met one of my foster boys. None of the boys we get have ever fly fishd. Rashan the one Ree met, is coming along full circle just fine. I got him an older glass rod, older Pluger reel w line and now hes tying flies right beside me. He is also learning C&R and taking real interest in keeping rivers cleaned up. I know I sound mushy, but its awesome taking these young pups out and teaching them right. Oh yeah, he also borrows one of my blue collar Boo rods also.