Don't feel too bad Ron. I have been trying to organize my library for several years now. New books get piled on the spare bed until I need to use it or the pile gets unstable as I keep falling farther behind. Then they get crammed onto a shelf or into a drawer at random without being cataloged. I think there were five or six hundred books when I started and and a lot more than that now. I almost cried when the index to the ones I did have put away was accidentally deleted about a year ago and I knew the backup disc was way out of date. I am not nearly crazy or ambitious enough to try to do the tying materials at the same time. That's why I have three grizzly necks and at last four packs of olive zonker strips but no white zonker strips and only a well picked over brown neck (that I know of).