Anyone own a first edition (1938) copy of Ray Bergman's "Trout"

[moucheur]

What is the fly you are looking for and what did you want to know about it? Maybe someone here knows the answer anyway.

[bobbyg]

The Red Trout Minnow Streamer. Trying to determine when and where it was first introduced? Also, who originated the fly?





Above as tied by Don Bastian....from his Old Flies.




Scanned color plate from the 1952 edition of Trout.

[sagefisher]

Here is some more historical data: Larry ---sagefisher---
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From a Don Bastian website:
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Red Trout Minnow Streamer
Tied by Don Bastian

This fly is the Red Trout Minnow pattern from Streamer Fly Tying and Fishing, by Joseph D. Bates. This fly is the image from The Complete Sportsman website, and was tied by me back in the spring of 1998.
Red Trout Minnow
Hook: Mustad 3665A Size #4
Thread: Black Danville 6/0 Flymaster
Body: Embossed silver tinsel
Wing: Blue goose shoulder married to red goose shoulder, with gray mallard folded over top
Cheek: Jungle cock
Head: Black

This was the first and last time I ever tied this pattern; a once-and-done fly. I have been thinking lately that I want to tie some more of the Red Trout Minnow?the problem is there are too many fly patterns to tie, let alone fish!

[bobbyg]

My copy is from 1976. Happy to help if I can.

Thank you oldfrat. Could you please tell me if the Red Trout Minnow Streamer color plate and info is included in your 1976 edition?

[Allan]

Here is some more historical data: Larry ---sagefisher---
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From a Don Bastian website:
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Red Trout Minnow Streamer
Tied by Don Bastian

This fly is the Red Trout Minnow pattern from Streamer Fly Tying and Fishing, by Joseph D. Bates.

Interesting! I have searched in the Bates book referenced by Don and did not find this pattern listed in the Index or an image in any of the Plates. Nice looking fly - but aren't they all.

Allan

[hairwing]

Good topic....the Red Minnow Streamer is in my '76 edition of Trout (pg. 144.) ; but not pictured in the plates.


I looked into Joe Fandel and didn't get much on the net. I'd like to know more if someone can give us a history lesson. Sounds like he was a very good fly tyer.


Honestly never heard of him.