Red Mucilin/Green Mucilin?

[DaleW]

All I've ever used is the red, and that goes back to my orginal days with silk line. Seldom have I seen the green on the shelves, mostly it's been red.

But I'm curious as to Ohiotuber's post as well ... what would melting do that would render the concoction useless? I ask because all these type products become soft in a summer's warm day, especially when left in the car or in a tackle box in the boat. Now I could possibly understand if it were to be heated on a stove to a boiling point that it might change properties, but just getting soft and melting in the heat of the day, I don't understand. Now I say all this as my red "stuff" has melted in the tackle box but after coolong has went back like it was and I've continued to use it and it seems like the same 'ol same 'ol.


Dale

[Plain Old Jim]

Sorta on topic....icw dressings and Gink. Never used a sinking treatment on a fly before. Bought some Xink? Zink?..whatever it is. One day decided to try it. It says once you apply this to your fly you will NEVER have to use a weight again. That crap is the best floatant I ever saw! I am on my stream and have to jerk the fly four times to even get it to go under water. By then the drift is totally ruined and over with. I have heard that they are known to mis-label their products. Just FYI on buying dressings.

Gem

[Mike E]

Mucilin is sold in the liquid form also,found it on a web site.

Mike

[Bamboozle]

Here are my two favorite brands of "line grease".



Unfortunately, neither are available in metal tins .

[ohiotuber]

I really do not remember, but I either was told, or read somewhere that melting ruined mucilin. I'm pleased to hear that I was misinformed, but could kick myself for disposing of that tin which was almost new.
Mikey

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[fcch]

Mikey, ... They will ALWAYS melt.

You can spot a Musclin user from 10 yards, ... We all have a grease stain on the vest or wader pocket.


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[rrhyne56]

RK,

I am fairly sure that you are kidding about the Green Mucilin but that makes sense about the Red being deer fat.

Can you point me to any refernence point or website? Just wanna verify.

Thank you so much for the data!!

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[DARKSTAR]

I always thought red was animal fat. I think Gierach alluded to that in Fishing Bamboo, but i can't think of where else I heard it before that. made sense so I never questioned it and just assumed it was

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[overmywaders]

Mucilin Red is not deer fat, all the old writers condemn the use of deer fat and other animal fats -- not only rancidity problems, but animal problems as well (do you want critters munching your silk lines while you are napping by streamside and your line is drying in the grass?).

Back in the '40's there were a lot of dressings sold containing Silicone or "Silicote" (marketing gibberish). I'm sure that many rodmakers were swearing when they tried to revarnish rods with even the smallest amout of silicone on them. The silicone causes "fish-eyes" in the varnish.

W.B. Sturgis in "New Lines for Fly-Fishers" (Derrydale Press, 1946?) describes fishermen using deer fat and condemns it as sticky and likely to gum up the guides. (He also mentions seeing desparate anglers using butter from their sandwiches). He suggests Aspinall's "Mucilin" which he states is paraffin based.

Sturgis gives this handy formula if you want to make your own:
Proportions by Weight, not volume

Type A Type B
Medicinal Mineral Oil 1.5 parts 2 parts
White Vaseline
(Petroleum Jelly) 1 part 1 part
Paraffin 1 part 1 part

Type A is for normal conditions, type B is for cold conditions.

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[DianeID]

I found this on another site, and thought the one post about product change interesting.
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It's back to the same bit about old vs new and how rarely things stay the same. I recall when "Coke Classic" came out stouting the same as the original. A friend has some old coke in the garage, and we checked the side. Sure enough, "old" and "classic" had different ingredients.

IAMS, when they were bought out by Procter & Gamble, it went through the same change. (My neighbor was cleaning out back of the barn and found a bag of food several years old and compared it to a recent bag.)

What worked in the past, with original formula and different uses, may not work now.