Last Sunday Liljoe and I went to visit WarrenP and I was going to get a lesson on how to make a Furl leader. Liljoe did a fantastic job and made some very nice leaders. Warren was giving me instructions on how to lay the line out and after a little bit of time turned me lose to make my first one. It turned out to be a beautiful strike indicator. So was the second one. I gave up and let Warren and liljoe finish out the day, but I have not given up on trying to learn, and I hope they will not give up on me. LOL