Kool Aid brittle hide

[ducksterman]

I'm just trying the Kool Aid dying thing and used a technique mentioned recently in another thread....

Microwave 2-3 minutes...no vinegar....nice soft piece of white rabbit...It was very simple and the color of the fur was excellent....however...the hide became hard and brittle so as to be unusable as zonker or crosscut strips .

I think I remember someone saying it has to do with getting too hot???? I don't think I'd want to go much shorter for fear of a poor color take.
Is it the microwave?
How can I keep the hide soft?

[Buddy Sanders]

Duckster,

You may have already tried this, but:

When that happened to me, and old friend sugested washing the hide with shampoo then using a good quality cream rinse on it.

It worked.

Good Luck!

Buddy

[biot midge]

ducksterman,
I have died zonker strips in a coffee carafe on a hotplate and they came out fine. I used a candy thermometer to find the right setting on the hotplate and then marked it so I don't have to check the temperature every time I dye something. The temperature should not be over 140 degrees. I don't know if that method will work with kool-aid. I have been using either Rit or "FlyDye".
Steve

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[billknepp]

Duckster,

It is best not to exceed 140 degrees no matter what material you are dying,Lengthening the amount of time at a temp not exceeding this is what A.K.Best suggests no matter the dye used or color being applied..and is why dyeing things to darker colors such as black tend to make things brittle the extra time in the dye bath.
A.K. has a wonderful book on dyeing and bleaching natural materials...great read even if not going to do your own dyeing!

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