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I have a couple of questions regarding furled thread leaders.
1) Can they be used for nymph fishing to a depth of three to five feet?
2) If you have a 6 foot furled leader and want a nine foot tapered to 7x, do you just loop to loop 3 feet of 7x tippet on or do you have to step down to 4 or 5x then to 7x?
3) What kind of floatant and cleaner do you use?
Yes they can be used for nymphing, don't treat with floatant, or partially treat what you to float or just sink from the tippet connection. is far as 6' to 9' just add 3' of 7x tippet. The floatant I like is the stuff that came with my Thibault silk line, but you can use Mucelin (red tin) or fly floatant.
Are you making your own or buying them?
Pete
Hi,
Here's my 2 cents on some of these :-)
1. I use them with nymphs and my Phoenix silk at that depth, but I'm not a great nymph angler.
2. Thread leaders can be made from different thicknesses of threads and a varying numbers of strands, but assuming you were using 6/0 Unithread in a 10-8-6 taper, I think I'd neck it down.
3. I use mucelin (red tin) as the flotant.
Hope this helps,
Kat
Hmmm.. I guess I should have added that they need not to be treated with floatant if nymphing, or partially treated, as Pete suggests, but I was guessing that they were two different questions (?)
Hi, Pete!
Kat
Pete, I am going to buy a blue sky furled leader. I beleive that is the name. Just have not talked myself into a $13.00 leader yet.
Steve
Check your Email.
Pete
Steve,
I often use a bright furled leader when using the "high stick" method of nymphing. The bright leader serves two purposes, first it is a great strike indicator, and second it is invaluable in detecting current so you can achieve a drag free drift.
As for tippets, it is your choice whether to use a single section or to step down the tippet. For light leaders I don't think tapering the tippet is necessary.
For a floating leader use a good paste type floatant, Mucelin if you have it, if not a good paste floor wax will work. Water proofers such as Water Shed do little to make the leader float and will actually stiffen it. I do not recommend them.
Jim Cramer
[This message has been edited by Jim Cramer (edited 04 March 2005).]
Steve - Another way of attaching light tippet to a furled leader is to tie a large loop into one end the tippet, and loop the big loop to the end of the leader.
I do this with a spider hitch knot. [url=http://www.sarasota-fla-fishing.com/Spider.html:d7d37]http://www.sarasota-fla-fishing.com/Spider.html[/url:d7d37]
Make the loop so that it is about a foot long when stretched out. One end of the tippet is left 2-3 feet long and extends out of the knot.
When looped to the leader, you now have one foot of doubled tippet to act as the step down, and 2-3 feet of tippet to fish with. The biggest advantage is that the spider hitch is much stronger than a blood knot or a surgeons knot, so the perennial weak point in leader/ tippet connection is eliminated.
Is there a link to how to tie a furled leader?
-Zac
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Great idea, Tom!
Just as an aside, Tom's ultimately responsible for me furling leaders, for which I am honored and greatful!
Kat
BassAngler, Furled leaders aren't really tied, they are Furled. This is a twisting process used to create a tapered leader using a continuous of thread or mono. There are many posts here and elsewhere with details of the process. Kathy Scott also has also created a DVD which demonstrates the technique.
Al
It's nice of you to say that Kathy, but as far as I'm concerned it's a classic case of the student surpassing the teacher.
Im thinking of making some myself. I found a like with a lot of info on making them with a 10/8/6 taper. My question is the uni-thread in orvis is only size 8/0. But the sizes in cabellas are 8/0, 6/0, and 3/0. What size should i use?
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[This message has been edited by Bass_Angler_04 (edited 05 March 2005).]
Use 6/0! The 8/0 is too light and thin and easily breaks when twisted.
Al
thanks al
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Here are two links for 'how to' on furled leaders, including a god image of a finished one...
[url=http://www.uniproducts.com/english/fcs-prod.asp?no=27:08b8a]http://www.uniproducts.com/english/fcs-prod.asp?no=27[/url:08b8a]
[url=http://www.canerod.com/rodmakers/tips/furled/furled.html:08b8a]http://www.canerod.com/rodmakers/tips/furled/furled.html[/url:08b8a]
I made a few variations from the above for my own set up.....
1. I used a 1X6 board and some 1" dia. dowels for my jig. By drilling a series of holes I can adjust the peg positions for making leaders in several lentghs.
2. I tension the strands with rubber bands instead of weights. 3 or 4 thin rubber bands strung in series (end to end) apply the tension to each strand.
3. I spin using a variable speed hand drill with a hook chucked in the jaws. A bent paper clip used as a hook on the rubber bands also act as a pointer to show when the strand has twisted enough.
I can get about 3 leaders from a spool of 6/0 UNI thread. I then add sections of mono leader tapered to the desired tippet size.
So for a 9'-6x I would add 8 of 2X, then 8" of 4X and 18" of 6X.
Would the directions here work [url=http://www.flyfisherman.com/skills/jcfurledleaders/:106f8]http://www.flyfisherman.com/skills/jcfurledleaders/[/url:106f8]
They seem to be slightly more easier to understand. And have a better diagram.
-Zac
It's up to you on what size thread you use I use both for light lines I use 8 for 5 and over I use 6. It's totally up to the person who is making the leaders on what they want to use try differnt things and see what works best for you. As I said in another post about F leaders is there have been tons of people making them here in the past few years and who can sell you one pretty cheap if you ask or some as I have in the past have given them away just for people to try and then I've had more come back to buy from me but. Now I just mainly make them for me and my friend unless someone really wants them bad then I'd start making them again. I also make toothy critter leaders( muskie pike) if you want that Info e-mail me Later Matt if e-mailing put Furled leader in subject.
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Stonefly, Is there anyway i could send u some money for a furled leader. I would like to try one out before i make one myself. Ive only seen them in pictures.
-Zac
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Zac you have e-mail waiting for you Later Matt
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