Double Pink Weenie Test III

I took a couple Double Pink Weenies out to do a little field testing the other day. It was one of the least promising days for brim that you could have imagined. Bright, still and very hot. Still and all, I caught four nice brim in the first four casts. The brim held on to the flies for a much longer period of time than was typical. I purposely avoided setting the hook on one fish and it actually swam around with the fly in his mouth for several seconds. I believe Koosh Ball spikes have a life-like feel that is missing in most fly tying material. On these flies, I used a #10 nymph hook which was 1X longs and 1X heavy. The body is pink ice dubbing and the appendages are four weenie ball spikes. The fly settles slowly in the water column and most fish took the fly when it was just sinking without additional motion. The exception to this occurred when a good sized catfish grabbed my last weenie in shallow water and broke the leader. I think there is real promise in this material.

8T,
That is a nice variation on the hairy weenie!

Love it.

Jeff

(I would call myself the father of the hairy weenie, but not sure how that would sound:D )

Maybe we can call you the “Weenie God”, a la Paul, instead?

Saw a green weenie ball in Waly-world the other day. Went back for it today, and some little crumb snatcher had beat me to it. I’ll check the Dollar store and see if they they have any.

Kirk

Certainty dose not bode well for the art or advancement in fly tying…:confused:

Between the both of you, obviously enjoying the interaction of playing with each others weenies, there’s no telling WHERE this could all lead!? It’s very interesting that the Brim hit a four legged fly like that!?! Evidently, the material and color plays a huge part!?

Steve,

Don’t despair. I could always tie in a few quills from some nearly extinct birds around the world. We could have a full dress version of the Double Pink Weenie. 8T :slight_smile:

Hi Paul,

I need to make one thing perfectly clear! Jeff and I are not experimenting with each others’ weenies. As you can see from the radically different design of the flies, we are experimenting with our own weenies.

As to the reason that brim hit such a strange looking fly (creation?), the action of the legs in the water, the transparency of the material and the pink, worm-like color all play a role. Once the brim try a nibble, the life-like feel of the material takes over and gives us something almost as good as the plastic worm. Just my 2% of a dollar. 8T :slight_smile:

Actually, 8T, I think you’re more about 98 cents correct, with your explanation!! That’s why the shape of the fly you’ve designed intrigues me.
When I first tried to play with Tying God’s Hairy Weenie, I also, got immediate takes with the flies I copied from from his pictures, then when he was ever so kind as to send me actual flies, he’d crafted himself, I also fished with the same results.
The material is certainly a huge part of it and it’s going to be fun as well as interesting, to see what fly styles emerge from here on out!??!
Also, you mentioned “pink”, so it must be my meds, and/or, my monitor because the pictures of your flies come through to me as a very, very, bright… florescent ORANGE!??

Paul, it’s not your monitor or your medications, no matter what type of lighting I used, all my pictures came out with a slightly orange tint to them. The actual color of both the Koosh Ball and the Double Pink Weenies is a very deep, rich pink. I do think that orange would be a great color too. 8T :slight_smile:

is testing your new creation on panfish a true indication that other species will want to bite your weenie!!! :smiley:

Okay - this has gone on long enough.

The so-called “Hairy Weenie” is a knock-off of a long known fly originally created by L.Q. Quackenbush known as the “Royal Coachman’s Weenie”. The “weenie” and the “Weenie” were later dropped as good weenies were said to be hard to find in that era.

There is also, of course, the lesser known “Wulff’s Weenie”.

I can’t put my hands on any verification at the moment but I’m sure if any of you want to Google “Weenie” you’ll find some interesting stuff. :smiley:

Good looking flies 8T. Very creative.

Jeff looks like your invention is taking on a life of its own. Good Job. :wink:

That’s a pretty cool pattern! I’d love to try that on the bluegills here. It looks like a much larger fly than what I’m accustomed to tossing at the local “brim”. But then, a gob of nightcrawler on a hook isn’t exactly a small mouthful for a 'gill, and they don’t seem to mind that! :smiley:

Well, I know brookies in Blacktail Deer Creek bite the weenie. I had several solid hits on an orange one. I didn’t get any to hand and lost the only one I had with me in a tree after about 10 minutes of fishing. Never considered them trout flies, but based on that 10 minutes on Yellowstone Brookies, I think the weenie has trout potential too.

Jeff

Guys, check out the thread in the warm water section about the Trout Magnet (http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?t=22508)

Ducksterman had a Genius idea using your weenies–uh, that is your weenie material, er…um…the koosh ball stuff :wink:

Outstanding Fly !!!

I am going to tye sum up tomorrow.

Just one question; How do you get the two parts to stay in place?

I have difficulty getting one to stay in place.

Thanks for the cool flies, and material.

chris

I don’t know if the one I found is a mere, “mis-manufacture” paint job, or not, but while “cruising for weenie material today”, at Walgreen’s Drug I found one of the ones that I think 8T found also…“You whap it and it begins to blink”!?
Anyway, the colors on this particular one are “blue-tapered to pink”, “all pink”, “all blue” and “blue and tapered to green” and finally “green tapered to pink”.
It’s about THE ugliest color combos I’ve yet seen in a Koosh ball, but I’m thinking the color combos will make for an interesting fly nonetheless!?!
I’ll post pictures after I tie up a few and get the proper input, suggestions and critiquing from “The God Of All Weenies”, himself…“The Tier formerly known as Tying God”.
On second thought, it appears we now have a “Weenie Team” here, since 8T has taken his own weenie to new heights of design, so I’ll expect weenie input from you both!?!
Oh, one word of advice, for those that may get too involved in using this new material… DO NOT, run into the house, plastic bag in hand and excitedly exclaim to your pillow partner, that “Wait’ll ya’ see my multicolored weeinie! I even got it to LIGHT UP then you whap it against something!”
The “gentler gender” does not seem to share the same attitudes and excitement, pertaining to this new tying idea, as one might expect, I found out.

Hi Chris,

Getting the weenie spikes to stay in place at first seemed like trying to control a greased octopus with just one hand. When I first tried tying them in on a thread base, they rolled all over the place even when they were repeatedly wrapped----they just kept going on around the hook shank. The secret of keeping them in place is to dub the last quarter of the body. The dubbing keeps them in place. My sequence goes like this. Lay a thread base on the hook shank. Dub a generous but tight body on the last quarter of the hook shank (nearest the bend). Wrap two or three tight turns of thread over the last last 1/16th of an inch of the dubbed body. Cut two weenie ball spikes. Even them up. Lay them on the side of the fly facing you with the tips facing backward. Soft wrap with two or three wraps. Pull tight and let them roll to the top of the hook shank. Hold the spikes in place on the top of the shank and hard wrap with two or three more turns of thread. A word of warning, the spikes can’t be further adjusted once you complete this step. Lift the thick end of the spikes (facing the eye) and tie the thread against them as you do to lock in the hair on an EHK. Never rewrap over this area again. Dub the rest of the body leaving space for the fly head. Tie two or three tight wraps of thread over the dubbed body about a 1/16th of an inch back from the eye. Cut two spikes and tie them in as you did the spikes at the tail.

I know this sound complicated but this is a very easy fly to tie. I’m not a fast tyer (by choice) but I can knock out 5 or 6 of these things in 15 minutes. I you have any trouble, I’d be glad to further clarify the tying procedure. Good luck with the Double Pink Weenies! 8T :slight_smile:

8T, I really like the weenie variant. Wonder how it would work if one tied a simple overhand knot in the weenie spike to give them a little kink to look like leg joints in a bug? I think I’ll have to tie some up and see what I get. I won’t say “kinky weenie”, I promise I won’t say it. :smiley:

Jeff

Too late, my friend, wayyyyyy too LATE!
When St.Paul-“The Highly Confused” is lurking about these boards, and not really all that pleased with the moniker I switched you to, “The God Of All Weenies”, I MOST, definitely appreciate you hanging your own, title, on yourself. It saves me a lot of work.
“The Hairy Weenie Fly”, invented by none other, than “Kinky Weenie” himself"!! I, like it.
Thanks!

Jeff,

Wonderful idea! Since the weenie spikes stretch forever and snap right back into shape, knots are very easy to tie in the legs and they look great----much more bug-like appearance. Would that technically make the fly’s name "the Double Pink Kinky Weenie? If tied on size #18 or above we should call the fly "the Double Pink Dinky Weenie. Seriously. the knotted legs are a GREAT addition to the general look. 8T :slight_smile: