The Stream Doctor

March 28th, 2005

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Q. For years a local trout stream has been stocked annually with Brown Trout yearlings. This has taken place at bridges and other places of easy access. In recent years volunteers have been "float stocking" in order to spread the fish out and to prevent the new larger 2-year old fish from being caught during the first few days after socking. Many fishers objected to this (spreading them out)... one of their reasons was "The fish will all die in a few weeks, may as well catch and cook."

I did an impromptu survey and found that no one had ever observed even a small fish kill of trout. (I did observe a kill of about 250 chubs of some kind under a bridge about 15 miles downstream of the stocked area but no dead trout there). The surface water temperature measured 90 degrees that day. I went up on the bridge so that I could see further downstream and there as big as life were two trout out in the sunny part of the stream and alive. I had located a good number of trout further downstream but they were in a shady spring. Although I probed for it, I could not locate a spring in this spot.

It may have been a feeble seep that saved them. (I have also measured the vertical distribution of temperature in some refuge areas and found temperature differences of 20 degrees F in 4 ft) I believe the chubs favored the shadow of the bridge for protection which wasn't enough to save them. When it comes to trout, I believe that we are too quick to condemn a stream as too warm to stock!

There are springs all along this river and it doesn't take the fish that survive the initial onslaught long to locate them. This is not a stream with long periods of dangerous temperatures and we were able to prove to the state, NY, that an unstocked portion 20 miles downstream has been a source of some very good fishing. Fish from a stocked tributary find their way there in big enough numbers to make some very pleasant fishing at times. I have no education along biological lines but I think that it may make sense to stock these springs with eyed eggs in order to increase the total number of fish in these lower sections. Hopefully fish born there would be stream imprinted and capable of reproduction. (There has been an increase in the number of juvenile wild fish since the float stocking program was started). The availability of food was described as phenomenal by a private ichthyologist, M. Elizabeth Conners, Phd, Cornell U. We have no money to hire private consultants to help in this endeavor and must rely on private and club funds to do so.

We hope to get permission to stock twenty miles of occasional springs. I am old (73) but hope to locate a good number of these springs this summer in preparation for stocking this fall. I feel that we have at least a chance of a moderate success and would like your opinion. Ol' Bill

A. First of all, I strongly disagree with your definition of old (73), because I'm 74 so what does that make me? I know, older. Second, your submission, though thorough, makes it pretty tough for me to give you any definitive answer; there are so many things involved in evaluating a stream for successful stocking that it really takes someone more familiar with the situation not just the ecological characteristics of the stream, but things like fishing pressure, availability of fish, state policies, etc.

Now having covered my rear for not giving you a straight answer, I will attempt an answer to your question and offer some other observations that might be pertinent.

Given that you've found what appears to be a successful fishery 20 miles downstream, I would think that there is a possibility of success in your proposal.

I'm a little surprised at trout surviving 90 degree temperatures; this is significantly higher than their preferred temperature range. However, much depends on what temperature they have been acclimated to and how rapidly the temperature reached these high levels. They have a better chance of survival if the change is gradual. The fact that you say that fish find their way from tributaries may also indicate that resident trout may find refuge from adverse condition in these tributaries. The tribs and the springs obviously are important refugia for the fish.

Your suggestion to stock the springs with eyed eggs is with the use of Vibert boxes, I assume. These can be quite successful, but somewhat pricey if you do it extensively.

Well, I've talked around this a bit without giving you much positive to hang your hat on. Good luck with your efforts. ~ Older Bert

If you have a question, please feel free to contact me.
~ C. E. (Bert) Cushing, aka Streamdoctor
105 W. Cherokee Dr.
Estes Park, CO 80517
Phone: 970-577-1584
Email: streamdoctor@aol.com

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